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    Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home

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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      yes

      see
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe

      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F100 T2000

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      • vistalertundefined
        vistalert
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        M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F100 T2000

        /\ Doesn't correspond to a D3 setup does it?

        If P9 activates the pull up by default, why does that example show the use of ^ to activate the pull up.

        That confuses me more.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
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          @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

          If P9 activates the pull up by default

          where does it say that p9 activates the pullup?

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          • vistalertundefined
            vistalert @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti not to split hairs...

            I asked "Are we 100% confident P9 has the pullup in place by default."

            You said yes 🙂

            So for a Duet3 (my specific context), would this be correct?
            M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F100 T2000

            Thanks

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              yes.

              i said that is what is generated by default if you configure bltouch in the duet configurator.

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              • vistalertundefined
                vistalert
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                Thanks for confirming

                No change in behaviour with the following in config.g
                M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F100 T2000

                Home Z, bed continues to move when contact with probe has ocurred.

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
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                  can you post your homeall.g ?

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                  • vistalertundefined
                    vistalert @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti I haven't yet got a reliable homeall.g as I haven't commissioned the BLTOUCH.

                    I have Home X and Home Y, which are sensorless (pending delivery of endstops)

                    So what I'm trying for test purposes is this:

                    1. Execute M401 - probe deploys - touch the end of the probe briefly enough to make the BLT light red. It must be released in < 650ms is my understanding, else it errors. At no time during repeated touches does the Z sensor in DWC show anything other than 0.

                    2. I use a macro to drop the bed 10mm. I execute HOME Z - with my hand on the power button, because every time I test this, the bed is going to hit the nozzle.

                    For what it's worth, this is the homeall.g I've built from copy / paste / learning about sensorless homing:

                    My objectives here, home to front left using sensorless. Then move to centre of bed and probe there for Z home. Welcome your comments recommendations, as always.

                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    
                    M574 X1 Y1 S3 			; use stall guard for endstops
                    
                    M201 X2000 Y2000 		; reduce acceleration on X/Y to stop false triggers
                    
                    M915 P0:1 S3 R0 F0 H400	; both motors because corexy; Sensitivity 4, don’t take action, don’t filter, 400steps/sec
                    
                    G91 					; relative Positioning
                    
                    G1 H2 Z5 F1200			; lower the bed
                    
                    
                    M913 X44 Y44  			; drop motor currents
                    G1 H1 X-500 F5000 		; move until the motor stalls - COARSE HOME
                    
                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    M913 X100 Y100  		; motor currents back to 100%
                    G1 H2 X30 Y0 F1200		; move away from end 
                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    
                    
                    M913 X32 Y32  			; drop motor currents
                    G1 H1 Y-500 F4000 		; move until the motor stalls - COARSE HOME
                    
                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    M913 X100 Y100  		; motor currents back to 100%
                    G1 H2 X0 Y10 F1200		; move away from end 
                    
                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    
                    G90 					; back to absolute positioning
                    M913 X100 Y100  		; motor currents back to 100%
                    M201 X3000 Y3000 		; accel back to original
                    
                    M400 					; wait til stuff stops
                    G90 					; absolute positioning
                    
                    G1 X250 Y250 F13000 	; Move x and Y axis over to bed center so probe is on top of bed
                    M558 A1 F400 			; Set single probing at faster feed rate
                    G30 					; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
                    M558 A3 F100 			; Set tripple probing at slower feed rate
                    G30 					; Probe again to get a more accurate position
                    
                    G28 X Y
                    
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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti @vistalert
                      last edited by Veti

                      @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                      At no time during repeated touches does the Z sensor in DWC show anything other than 0.

                      the bltouch pulse is so fast that you will not see it go to 1000.

                      have you run the bltouch self test? its
                      M280 P0 S120

                      (edits it S120)

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                      • vistalertundefined
                        vistalert
                        last edited by

                        I will try. But that runs on power up no?

                        At power on, I see the pin bounce twice then the BLT tests with solid red LED.

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @vistalert
                          last edited by

                          @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                          I will try. But that runs on power up no?

                          no the self test will retract and deploy the pin 10 times

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            what firmware version are you on (i hope the latest 3.1.1)

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                            • vistalertundefined
                              vistalert @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti understood

                              M280 P0 S120 - Don't get any activity from BLT

                              My firmware is:
                              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.01-RC9 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @vistalert
                                last edited by

                                @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                3.01-RC9

                                please update to 3.1.1 there were some versions with bltouch problems

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                                • vistalertundefined
                                  vistalert
                                  last edited by

                                  Sure thing

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                                  • vistalertundefined
                                    vistalert
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti Completed all the upgrades to 3.1.1

                                    Confirming that the BLTOUCH 3.1 self-test does now execute after the upgrade to 3.1.1.
                                    M401/402 deploys and retracts.

                                    Home Z does not stop the bed raising when probe touches the bed.
                                    Lightly touching the probe doesn't register on DWC Z sensor, the value stays at 0.

                                    A reminder, that as the bed doesn't retract within 650ms, the BLT goes into error.
                                    If I manually push the pin up, then issue the BLT reset command, it does reset ready for next test cycle.

                                    So, some progress 🙂

                                    Bear in mind I still have questionable bed.g, homez.g - almost all of my config stuff is copy /paste from elsewhere.

                                    Not sure if Z endstop setting is needed in config,g as it is put there by the configurator, but then people say it's not needed, and others say it is.

                                    Please advise next steps and many thanks for the patient support so far.

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti @vistalert
                                      last edited by

                                      @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                      Bear in mind I still have questionable bed.g, homez.g - almost all of my config stuff is copy /paste from elsewhere.

                                      i would suggest you create them using the configurator. this will give you clean files with bltouch support. select bltouch there and the generated files should be good.

                                      A reminder, that as the bed doesn't retract within 650ms, the BLT goes into error.

                                      this is not normal, try again with the clean config

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                                      • vistalertundefined
                                        vistalert
                                        last edited by

                                        Got the clean configs.
                                        Do I need to set the Z screw locations AND do something to bed.g in relation to probing close to the screws?

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti @vistalert
                                          last edited by

                                          @vistalert

                                          for now focus on the bltouch problem

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                                          • vistalertundefined
                                            vistalert
                                            last edited by

                                            The BLT and bed are intrinsically linked for Z probing, so don't we need to ensure bed.g and homez.g are in alignment?

                                            What steps do you want me to take now that I have the clean files? These files are initially not suitable without editing (which as a newbie is challenging). For example, the Z was travelling way too fast. There's no support in the configurator for triple steppers.

                                            What specific steps do you want me to take with what specific actions from the UI, or GCODE from the console?

                                            I think we need a less generic approach, and I need to be told: do this, expect this.

                                            We spent all day yesterday circling around my wiring, to find we should have started with the firmware version. Today you're telling me to use the configurator and without specific knowledge of the stepper setup, the bed almost shot off the top of the screws at high speed.

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