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    • Rudy2Aundefined
      Rudy2A
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      I redid and redone my files again ... And nothing helps, nothing changes, worse I'm drowning completely.

      Someone with good intention to configure me (bass) my printer with the configuration tool. This would be a bass config file with the declared double Z (Z + U). I'm not asking you to do the work for me, I just want to compare files to understand and then be able to reproduce ... It's the only way for me, I know everything is detailed in procedure, but frankly as you can understand, this It's not easy to assimilate everything technically when it is not written in your mother tongue, a period, a comma, a bad translation and find yourself off topic. Thank you for your help.

      Sincerely the file comparison method is working for me. it's not to just copy and paste stupidly, it's to be able to continue to understand the RRF3 logic.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @Rudy2A
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        @Rudy2A

        the reason to go with the configurator is that it generates a config that saves you from small pitfalls.
        like order dependency of the commands etc.

        in your case changing of the M574 for z probe and changing the homing files no to use the endstops.

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        • Rudy2Aundefined
          Rudy2A @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti

          I understand that the configuration tool is there to help me (I do not disagree) and what I ask is that they explain it to me or that they give me a little help to configure it, because it is not easy for me (for lack of fluency in English) to understand everything he asks, it may seem stupid, but I assure you that it is indeed the reality ... with the translation, he gives me a bunch of words that I I have to put things back in order to try to make a solution that is necessarily not always the right one.

          The proof, just a simple request for help is already a problem between us, I think the translator does not exactly reproduce my request and makes us go around in circles ... Thank you anyway.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            ask specific questions where you are unsure in the configurator.

            then we can hopefully clarify them.

            maybe this helps a bit.
            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+2:+Configuration/38

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            • Rudy2Aundefined
              Rudy2A
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              I assure you that I am not having a bad time. It's like, I wanted to convince you that I made the best wine from home in Corsica by explaining it to you in my written language… I'm sure you'll be more convinced if I gave it to you!

              Here are the different stages where I am not comfortable. What should I put for all of these pages?

              Mini IR Probe
              Genuine E3D V6
              Genuine E3D 300X300 bed (Semitec 104GT) 220V

              Capture d’écran 2020-10-26 à 10.38.30.png

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              thank's

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
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                check: Select the first tool on Start-up.
                That is helpful for testing.

                Modulation Pin is not required for the ir probe, as there is no back channel. so set that do not assigned

                z enstop to not assigned is ok as well, since you want to use the ir sensor.

                for the e3d. in the the heater window. click on the beta field. and select semitec for both bed and hotend.

                Add these lines
                M307 H0 A435.0 C388.3 D7.8 B0 S0.8 V13.4
                M307 H1 A650.7 C221.3 D4.8 B0 S1 V13.3 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                to Custom Settings for config.g: on the last page

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                • Rudy2Aundefined
                  Rudy2A
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                  Frankly, even installing my original backup file which used to work fine before… I end up with new errors. It's nothing to understand ... I'm sure too stupid. A function that would be nice to add to the configuration tool would be, from the first step. A button checked which would tell us: if you are a big moron, check this box and the answer would be: since you checked this box, take an interest in Marlin (noisier, cheaper, but configurable without any problem). Two years that I was shooting with RRF2 and no problem, easy configuration and good result. Thanks to RRF3, I think my printer will take some distance with me, by propelling it from the 5th floor, I would have created the first flying 3D printer.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    @Rudy2A come now, don't despair. We will get you there eventually, but only if you don't give up.

                    Can you post your current config.g please?

                    Double Z/U axis is not needed in RRF3 if you intend to do leveling with two endstops. You only need a U axis if you want manual control of both Z motors.

                    M574 Z1 S2 P"io2.in + io3.in";

                    In your config above you have these pins define, but those are pin names for the Duet 3. The rest of your pin names for for Duet 2. I think this may be the cause of the invalid use of P parameter.

                    Can you restate the current problem?

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                    • Rudy2Aundefined
                      Rudy2A
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                      First of all, I want to say that I have absolutely nothing against this forum and the people who make it live ... I blame myself and especially not the community for doing its best.

                      You should also know that I do not speak English and it is very difficult to make yourself understood or to understand you in your answers.

                      My issue is the following :

                      I am using a Duet 2 under RRF3.1.1. I absolutely cannot get my Double Z (Z and U) to work independently to level my bed. One of the Z motors is connected to Drive 2 and the other to Drive 4.

                      When I do a G32, I see the axes (M671) which restore my possible inclination, it works without any problem. On the other hand, for the future with the M557 which runs my two motors, but symmetrically so they do not correct anything since they move equally. I think my whole configuration is corrupted now by dint of modification.

                      Config.
                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 26 2020 11:25:15 GMT+0100 (CET)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P"My Printer+" ; set printer name
                      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

                      ; Network
                      M552 S1 ; enable network
                      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                      M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                      M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                      M569 P4 S0

                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 U4 E3 P3 ; set drive mapping
                      M671 X-58: 317 Y132: 132 S10; vis à plomb à gauche (connectées à Z) et à droite (connectées à E1) de repère X

                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z1600.00 U1600.00 E830.00 ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z60.00 U60.00 E2400.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X11639 Y11639 Z200 U200 E600 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X800.00 Y800.00 Z40.00 U40.00 E300.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X950 Y950 Z950 U950 E1120 I20 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X0 Y0 Z-0.5 U0-0.5 S1 ; set axis minima
                      M208 X270 Y270 Z245 U245 S0 ; set axis maxima

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                      M574 Z1 S2 P"io2.in" ; Axe Z avec deux moteurs, butées min.

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M558 P1 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                      G31 P500 X-19 Y6 Z2.58 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 X11:250 Y11:252 S20 ; define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                      M307 H0 A435.0 C388.3 D7.8 B0 S0.8 V13.4
                      ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                      M307 H1 A650.7 C221.3 D4.8 B0 S1 V13.3
                      ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

                      ; Fans
                      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                      M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                      Bed.g
                      ; bed.g

                      G28 ; Home all Axes
                      M561 ; Efface la correction de plan
                      M290 R0 S0 ; Efface Baby-stepping

                      ; Bed levelling (G32)
                      G30 P0 X0.0 Y132 Z-99999; sonde près d'une vis sans fin, à mi-chemin le long de l'axe Y
                      G30 P1 X260 Y132 Z-99999 S2; sonde près d'une vis et calibrez 2 moteurs

                      ; Espace de sondage
                      M557 X11:250 Y11:252 P2 ; Définir la grille maillée

                      ; Compensation de maillage (G29)
                      G29 S0

                      homeall.g

                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 H2 Z2 F6000 ;
                      G1 H1 X-275 Y-275 F1000 ; se déplacer rapidement vers la butée X ou Y et s'arrêter là (premier passage)
                      G1 H1 X-275 ; home X axis
                      G1 H1 Y-275 ; home Y axis
                      G1 X4 Y4 F600 ; retour légerement en AR (calage)mm
                      G1 H1 X-10 ; déplacement lent vers le fin de course de l'axe X
                      G1 H1 Y-10 ; déplacement lent vers le fin de course de l'axe Y
                      G90 ; absolute positioning
                      G1 X129 Y132 F6000 ; Sonde le Z0
                      G30

                      homez.g
                      G91 ; Relative mode
                      G1 Z250 U250 F2000 S1 ; Move up to 250mm in the +Z direction. S1 to stop if endstop is triggered
                      G1 Z-2 U-2 F600 S2 ; Move 2mm in the -Z direction - (I'm not sure what S2 is for?)
                      G1 Z3 U3 F100 S1 ; Move slowly 3mm in the +Z direction, stopping at the homing switch
                      M584 Z2:4 ; Join U to Z again (pay attention to drive numbers used)
                      G1 Z-5 F3000 ; Move back again 5mm in the -Z direction
                      G90 ; Back to absolute mode

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @Rudy2A
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                        @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                        M574 Z1 S2 P"io2.in"

                        You do not need this. io2.in does not exist on your duet 2. and you don't need to define a z axis endstop if you're using the probe.

                        @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                        Double Z (Z and U)

                        You do not need a U axis at all to do leveling using G32/bed.g as you have now.

                        @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                        homez.g
                        G91 ; Relative mode
                        G1 Z250 U250 F2000 S1 ; Move up to 250mm in the +Z direction. S1 to stop if endstop is triggered
                        G1 Z-2 U-2 F600 S2 ; Move 2mm in the -Z direction - (I'm not sure what S2 is for?)
                        G1 Z3 U3 F100 S1 ; Move slowly 3mm in the +Z direction, stopping at the homing switch
                        M584 Z2:4 ; Join U to Z again (pay attention to drive numbers used)
                        G1 Z-5 F3000 ; Move back again 5mm in the -Z direction
                        G90 ; Back to absolute mode

                        This is unnecessary if you are using bed.g to do the leveling.

                        @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 U4 E3 P3 ; set drive mapping

                        Remove the U4 and all references to the U axis in M92, M350, M566, M203, M201, M906, M208. Remove the P3 as well. You don't need it.

                        M671 X-58: 317 Y132: 132 S10 Remove the space after :

                        Once you have done all of that, G28 should home all axis, and then G32 should perform tilt correction.

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                        • Rudy2Aundefined
                          Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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                          Apparently, it seems to be out of order (to watch out for) ...

                          I still have a slight problem calibrating my probe (mini IR).

                          When it raises its value.=>>
                          "Nozzle in the center of the bed (usual temperature)
                          Put the nozzle in contact with the tray (or the sheet of paper)
                          G92 Z0 (Z = 0)
                          Lift the 5mm nozzle (G92 Z5)
                          G30 S-1
                          Read the z value
                          G31 Z xxx"

                          I get a height of 2.74 and if I indicate this value G31 Z2.72 my first layer is too crushed ... On the other hand if I go down to 2.62 in manual G31 Z2.62, it is good. Is such a Delta normal?

                          I am in doubt about my order for the probe, does this seem correct to you?

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P1 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P500 X-19 Y6 Z2.62

                          Thank you one more for your help!

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @Rudy2A
                            last edited by

                            @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                            I get a height of 2.74 and if I indicate this value G31 Z2.72 my first layer is too crushed ... On the other hand if I go down to 2.62 in manual G31 Z2.62, it is good. Is such a Delta normal?

                            yes, the first step is just to get a close value.
                            fine adjustment should always be made afterwards.

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                            • Rudy2Aundefined
                              Rudy2A @Veti
                              last edited by

                              Thank's @Veti

                              A small clarification on my values.

                              If I adjust my leveling on 2 points, my first coat is impeccable. (probe at the four corners of the bed) M557 X11: 250 Y11: 252 P2

                              If I adjust my leveling on 3 points, my first layer is much too high (probe at the four corners and in the center) M557 X11: 250 Y11: 252 P3

                              Please note that this is the same part that I am printing and no changes have been made.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @Rudy2A
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                                @Rudy2A

                                It depends if you bed is perfectly flat.

                                If true, g32 is enought
                                if false, g32 + g29 is needed.

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                                • Rudy2Aundefined
                                  Rudy2A @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti

                                  In both cases I do a G 32 + G29, all in a bed.g file

                                  ; bed.g

                                  G28 ; Home all Axes
                                  M561 ; Efface la correction de plan
                                  M290 R0 S0 ; Efface Baby-stepping

                                  ; Bed levelling (G32)
                                  G30 P0 X0.0 Y132 Z-99999; sonde près d'une vis sans fin, à mi-chemin le long de l'axe Y
                                  G30 P1 X260 Y132 Z-99999 S2; sonde près d'une vis et calibrez 2 moteurs

                                  ; Espace de sondage
                                  M557 X11:250 Y11:252 P2 ; Définir la grille maillée

                                  ; Compensation de maillage (G29)
                                  G29 S0

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @Rudy2A
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                                    @Rudy2A

                                    i dont think that the bed.g should contain a G29. or a M557 .

                                    if you cant G32 + G29 you should create a macro

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      You may want to add a single G30 at the center of the bed after the G30 P0 G30 P1 lines so that any change in height caused by the tilt correction is captured before the heightmap is created.

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                                      • Rudy2Aundefined
                                        Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                                        You may want to add a single G30 at the center of the bed after the G30 P0 G30 P1 lines so that any change in height caused by the tilt correction is captured before the heightmap is created.

                                        I did not understand everything ... Like that?

                                        ; lit.g

                                        G28 ; Home all Axes
                                        M561 ; Efface la correction de plan
                                        M290 R0 S0 ; Efface Baby-stepping

                                        ; Bed levelling (G32)
                                        G30 P0 X0.0 Y132 Z-99999; sonde près d'une vis sans fin, à mi-chemin le long de l'axe Y
                                        G30
                                        G30 P1 X260 Y132 Z-99999 S2; sonde près d'une vis et calibrez 2 moteurs
                                        G30
                                        ; Espace de sondage
                                        M557 X11:250 Y11:252 P2 ; Définir la grille maillée

                                        ; Compensation de maillage (G29)
                                        G29 S0

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          @Rudy2A said in calibration IR probe RRF3:

                                          ; Bed levelling (G32)
                                          G30 P0 X0.0 Y132 Z-99999; sonde près d'une vis sans fin, à mi-chemin le long de l'axe Y
                                          G30
                                          G30 P1 X260 Y132 Z-99999 S2; sonde près d'une vis et calibrez 2 moteurs
                                          G30

                                          No, like this:

                                          ; Bed levelling (G32)
                                          G30 P0 X0.0 Y132 Z-99999; sonde près d'une vis sans fin, à mi-chemin le long de l'axe Y
                                          G30 P1 X260 Y132 Z-99999 S2; sonde près d'une vis et calibrez 2 moteurs
                                          G90 ; absolute positioning
                                          G1 X150 Y150 ; move to center of bed
                                          G30 ; probe bed

                                          Change the x150 y150 to be whatever values you need to move the probe to the center of the bed.

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                                          • Rudy2Aundefined
                                            Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux Thank you, I'm testing ...

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