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    • Kwad3dundefined
      Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux Yes the new firmware is on the board. I confirmed the IP and reconnected to the board. At this point can I set up the BLtouch in the config tool and put it on the SD card or will I need to download and replace the www files again to match the new firmware?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        Ok, good, now that you're connected and the firmware is up to date you're good to go on that front.

        When you go through the configurator try and fill out all the boxes to the best of your knowledge with the details of your printer. It might help to load one of the premade printer profiles to look at just to see what a completed one looks like before making your own.

        At the end of the configuration process it will give you a download link to get a config.zip file that will contain a bunch of files. You can go to the system tab in the web interface and use the upload button there to upload that config.zip file. It will reboot and your configuration will be in place.

        At that point you can edit those files manually in the web interface if you need to.

        When your config is in place you can use some steps like those described here for testing the motors and fans and heaters etc.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+3:+Commissioning/39

        Come back if you have any questions. If you get really stuck, you can describe the printer and we can generate a config for you to start with. Eventually it pays to get used to editing the config files yourself. If you're unsure what a command does, look it up in the gcode wiki. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#main

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        • Kwad3dundefined
          Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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          @Phaedrux Ok thanks for you help and patience. The printer was designed to use senseless homing so I will have to read the documentation on it and update the homex and home y files to get that working correct. I also had a question about how the mesh leveling works. Will the parts of the bed where the probe cant reach be estimated based on the mesh or does it revert to no compensation in these areas?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
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            @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

            The printer was designed to use senseless homing so I will have to read the documentation on it and update the homex and home y files to get that working correct.

            You can choose sensorless as an endstop option in the configurator, but you will likely need to do some tuning.

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing

            @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

            Will the parts of the bed where the probe cant reach be estimated based on the mesh or does it revert to no compensation in these areas?

            Yes it will extrapolate to the areas it can't reach, but it's not perfect. If there is a unexpected peak or valley it won't know about it.

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

            @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

            Ok thanks for you help and patience.

            You're welcome.

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            • Kwad3dundefined
              Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux Ok I will more than likely need some assistance fine tuning the mesh leveling to match my probe locating and the areas where the print head can move off the bed. I did find this post in the forums where you made some good references that I think will get me there though.

              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/18185/possible-pwm-port-issue-rrf3-question/18

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              • Kwad3dundefined
                Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux Ok I came across a bug or something. When testing my heated bed I got error message after 15-30 seconds saying it is heating up too slow. However I can see the temp rising in a acceptable manor. How can I correct this issue?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
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                  @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                  How can I correct this issue?

                  It's not a bug. It's the thermal runaway protection kicking in because it doesn't have an accurate model of your heater yet so it thinks something is wrong.

                  The solution is to PID tune your heaters.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s161

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                  • Kwad3dundefined
                    Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                    last edited by Kwad3d

                    @Phaedrux LOL.. total DUH moment. Guess I assumed that "Bang Bang" didn't require it

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                      Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                      • Kwad3dundefined
                        Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux Ok I have made some progress but having inconsistent results with senseless homing and not sure how to adjust the settings. This is on a CoreXY for reference so both motors have to move in tandem to home x and y. It will home some times and then sometimes it will move a little in the opposite diagonal direction ( one motor not turning with the other). Here is my HomeX code. My guess is its slightly too sensitive. Im gussing I need to increase the motor current a few percent but want to check

                        M400
                        M913 X70 Y70 ; drop motor current to 70%
                        M400 G91; relative positioning
                        G1 H2 Z10 F12000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                        G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                        G1 H2 X20 F12000 ; go back a few mm
                        G1 H1 X-320.5 F7000 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                        G1 H2 Z-10 F9000 ; lower Z again
                        G90 ; absolute positioning
                        M400
                        M913 X100 Y100 ; return current to 100%
                        M400

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          What does your M915 command look like?

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing#Section_Sensorless_Homing

                          Have you calculated what your M915 H value should be and your minimum homing speed?

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing#Section_Minimum_recommended_speed_for_stall_detection

                          In your example, remove the entire second homing move. With stall detection you need a short sharp shock during a steady state move. Backing off and slowly approaching from close up isn't going to generate a stall reliably. Since you're stalling the motor to a full step anyway, backing off and rehoming for more accuracy doesn't make sense here like it does when using an endstop switch.

                          So try this

                          M400
                          M913 X70 Y70 ; drop motor current to 70%
                          M400 
                          G91; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z10 F12000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G1 H2 Z-10 F9000 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning
                          M400
                          M913 X100 Y100 ; return current to 100%
                          M400
                          

                          @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                          My guess is its slightly too sensitive. Im gussing I need to increase the motor current a few percent but want to check

                          Start with as low a motor current as you can still reliably move with and set the sensitivity to default. Then slowly increase (or decrease) sensitivity from there.

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                          • Kwad3dundefined
                            Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux So lower the full current setting that was set in the confit tool or the "drop motor" current in the M913 line? If im changing the full current that was set in the config (800) I can do that with a g code command in the console right? what is the code please if so

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
                              last edited by

                              I mean lower the dropped current in the M913 command in your homing file.

                              M906 sets the full current in config.g. That one should be set at ~80% of your motors max current.

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                              • Kwad3dundefined
                                Kwad3d @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux Ok currently my M913 line is set to %70 for x and Y. lower to %60-65 and retest?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  You can send M913 in the console to lower the current in steps. Send your homing move command each time. When the move doesn't work anymore, you've found the lower limit.

                                  Example

                                  M913 X30
                                  G1 H1 X-300 F10000
                                  M913 X40
                                  G1 H1 X-300 F10000

                                  etc

                                  If it still moves reliably sat 30% then maybe stick with that because I don't think you'd get much lower.

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                                  • Kwad3dundefined
                                    Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by Kwad3d

                                    @Phaedrux Today im getting zero movement on homing x. The bed drops then X is just set to 0 while the nozzle is in the center of the bed. I can manually move left and right after the failed homing move. Here is my code for home X at the moment. anything wrong with it? I repeated testing with M913 increments up to 100% I would occasionally get it to home but fails %90 of the time. How do I get it to grind the x axis into the home location? where I want to be is obviously somewhere between there and where Im at now.

                                    M400
                                    M913 X80 Y80 ; drop motor current to 80%
                                    M400
                                    G91; relative positioning
                                    G1 H2 Z10 F12000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                    G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                    G90 ; absolute positioning
                                    M400
                                    M913 X100 Y100 ; return current to 100%
                                    M400

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      I still haven't seen your m915 command. Can you post your config.g file?

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                                      • Kwad3dundefined
                                        Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by Kwad3d

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"SK GO" ; set printer name
                                        M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

                                        ; Network
                                        M551 P"SK GO" ; set password
                                        M552 S1 ; enable network
                                        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                                        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X10 Y36 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                        M208 X310 Y336 Z320 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
                                        M574 Y1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y

                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                        M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                        G31 P500 X-26 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                        M557 X36:290 Y46:290 S48 ; define mesh grid

                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                        M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S90 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
                                        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                        ; Fans
                                        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                        ; Custom settings are not defined

                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          May want to increase your max speed and decrease your acceleration.

                                          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          

                                          Try

                                          M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                          M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                          

                                          It sounds like it's detecting a stall immediately, possibly due to the high acceleration.

                                          Doing this calculation for minimum stall speed would help as well so we know how fast it needs to be going to stall, but not so fast that it stalls prematurely.

                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing#Section_Minimum_recommended_speed_for_stall_detection

                                          Hmin = full_steps_per_rev * rated_current * actual_current/(sqrt(2) * pi * rated_holding_torque)

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                                          • Kwad3dundefined
                                            Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by Kwad3d

                                            @Phaedrux Im confused by the equation.

                                            Hmin = full_steps_per_rev * rated_current * actual_current/(sqrt(2) * pi * rated_holding_torque)

                                            What is sqrt? and this is in algebraic format correct. So I would calculate full steps x rated current x actual current (A) and calculate sqrt x2 then x pi x rated holding (B). then divide a with b right?

                                            I have never had any luck with stall guard in general. Is there a way to turn it off but have senseless homing like on a prusa? Since this is on a coreXY that I will want to print at speeds above 100mm/s It could become a problem could it not?

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