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    • DjDemonDundefined
      DjDemonD
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      I can but is there a quick way to do this? or are you defining the 30 random points manually? If so I really don't have the time.

      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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      • roboduetundefined
        roboduet
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        I'm using simple PHP script to generate random points inside bed. If you are familiar with php I can post script, if not - I can post bed probe g-code file for your bed dimensions.

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        • DjDemonDundefined
          DjDemonD
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          Sure Ill try it, if you can post a bed.g file. I am using a 100mm diameter (I have a 300mm diameter bed but I often only probe the inner 100mm for printing small objects. I can't quite get down to the 0.001 levels with the 300mm diameter.

          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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          • roboduetundefined
            roboduet
            last edited by

            Please add Sx (x = number of factors) to latest line you want to use:

            For 100mm bed diameter
            For 150mm bed diameter
            For 200mm bed diameter
            For 300mm bed diameter

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            • DjDemonDundefined
              DjDemonD
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              Okay thanks I'll run some of these later. What sort of results have you seen so far?

              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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              • roboduetundefined
                roboduet
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                You are using 10-point 8-factor calibration.

                I just think that the smaller the number of points for calibration the easier it is to get perfect results. For example, using 3-point 8-factor calibration you will get perfect results with any sensor.

                That's why I asked about 20-30 points.

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                • DjDemonDundefined
                  DjDemonD
                  last edited by

                  100mm Run 1

                  18:56:18 G32
                  Calibrated 8 factors using 64 points, deviation before 0.089 after 0.011

                  Run 2

                  18:58:43 G32
                  Calibrated 8 factors using 64 points, deviation before 0.026 after 0.007

                  Run 3

                  19:00:51 G32
                  Calibrated 8 factors using 64 points, deviation before 0.010 after 0.009

                  So its an order of magnitude less precise when probing 64 points rather than 10. However its still achieving at best 0.007mm deviation, so its still a very accurate machine (should be cost me enough money, and even more time) plus the piezo probe is very accurate and repeatable.

                  Using AndOrNot experimental build surface, e3dv6 and Precision Piezo 27mm piezo sensor in Lykle/Zesty design assembly.

                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                  • roboduetundefined
                    roboduet
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                    Thank you, excellent results!

                    It seems for me that with such accurate build M665/M666 command output is never changing between calibrations.

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                    • DjDemonDundefined
                      DjDemonD
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                      Thank you. Yes it barely changes, I still run a calibration before each print and it usually trims the values slightly, but if this were my micro delta (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1874766) which I calibrate manually using Escher 3D least squares, I would calibrate it automatically once and then only return when I'd changed something, so I have never bothered to fit a z-probe to it. But on the 3 times larger kossel XL machine the effect of thermal expansion on the frame and bed might be marginal from one day to the next, but its just significant enough to be worth calibrating it frequently. Its also a good basic check if anything is amiss.

                      It would be quite nice to be able to code into the bed.g file , if deviation >=0.03 then halt. Or something like that.

                      This machine has been a nice test bed for the piezo sensor - I can rely on the printer to be accurate therefore I can evaluate one sensor design/type against another. I built a test rig but it was, as expected with printed parts and smooth rods, not terribly accurate. I was using it just to check a module I had built worked before shipping, but it broke down, and I'm so familiar with them now a few taps on the bench, and a shake to check its not too sensitive, is enough to see if they are working or not.

                      I was thinking about raising the hot end on the kossel XL as it currently hangs down below the effector, which might push things even closer to perfect, but its working so well I might refuse this one, for fear of ruining it, just chasing those last few thousandths of a millimetre, the path to insanity (or physics).

                      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                      • DjDemonDundefined
                        DjDemonD
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                        Here is this machine now with prototype enclosure, smart effector and filament monitor. Still to fit accessory chamber heater, and chamber cooling fan.

                        The extra heater monitor channels provided on the expansion connector are great and I can monitor temperature at the bottom and top of the chamber, to control heaters/fans to maintain the ideal temperature. Water cooling for hot end being considered.

                        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                        www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                        PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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