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Maestro issues (Firmware not updating and no ethernet)

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    j3d
    last edited by j3d 1 Oct 2021, 05:03 10 Jan 2021, 04:54

    I'll give it a try, but I don't understand why it no longer works with the exact same hardware.

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      j3d
      last edited by j3d 1 Oct 2021, 18:32 10 Jan 2021, 18:22

      I connected my laptop and the board to each other through ethernet, set my laptop's IP to 192.168.0.2, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway to 192.168.0.1, speed to 100baseT, and the printer's IP to 192.168.0.3, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway to 192.168.0.1. No change. Also tried changing it between half and full duplex.

      I also just downgraded the firmware to 3.1.1 through BOSSA as that was the original firmware version that it worked on, but the ethernet doesn't work on it either.

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 20:16

        It seems like whatever failure/short happened to cause the hotend to power up uncontrolled also damaged the ethernet port. Can you disconnect everything and get some clear, well-lit photos of the board? Perhaps we can spot a damaged component.

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          j3d
          last edited by j3d 1 Oct 2021, 22:00 10 Jan 2021, 21:15

          Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d23sm2xxk35xh3v/AABKB4PaqMS7xzck2IXK-XPKa?dl=0

          (The little black circle on the bottom left of the Wiznet chip seemed to be a little bit of finger oil, which came off with some isopropyl. IMG_5878.jpg and IMG_5880.jpg were taken after cleaning)

          I don't see any obvious evidence of a damaged component.

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 04:24

            Nothing jumps out at me either, but failures aren't always spectacular.

            When and where did you purchase the Maestro?

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              j3d
              last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 04:29

              I purchased it from spool3d.ca on October 15th, 2019. It's taken quite a while to get everything set up - it has only done one print so far.

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 05:34

                That is unfortunately well out of warranty.

                Perhaps @bearer may have a keener eye and can spot something in your photos or has an idea on potential repair.

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                  j3d
                  last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 05:38

                  I see. I'm kind of bummed out here to be honest, as this is the second piece of Duet hardware that has failed on me. The first being the IR sensor, which had a bad solder joint on the IR receiver, and now this. This certainly isn't something I would have expected from a premium product.

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 05:46

                    If you wish you can contact roland@duet3d.com and inquire about doing an exchange for a refurbished board at reduced cost, subject to availability.

                    But hopefully bearer or DC42 has a better idea of what could have gone wrong and whether it's repairable. From the troubleshooting we've done it's safe to say that the network interface is no longer working.

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                      A Former User
                      last edited by 12 Jan 2021, 18:36

                      (Pardon the delay)

                      I missed that it worked prior to the upgrade; to troubleshoot I'd probably monitor the SPI bus between the W5500 and CPU and replace whichever failed to initialize as can't see any obvious failures.

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                        j3d
                        last edited by j3d 12 Jan 2021, 23:56

                        I assume I would need a logic analyzer or oscilloscope with decoding functionality in order to do that?

                        Are the pins exposed on some easily accessible test point? I don't see any traditional SPI pins on the back.

                        Would it be possible for back-emf to destroy one of the stepper drivers is such a way that it would be messing up the rest of the SPI bus? I had my cantilevered bed fall a short distance before I noticed the board went bad.

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                          A Former User @j3d
                          last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 01:12

                          @j3d said in Maestro issues (Firmware not updating and no ethernet):

                          Are the pins exposed on some easily accessible test point?

                          no, but the kicad sources are available https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet-2-Hardware/tree/master/Duet2/Duet2Maestro_v1.0 your options are the vias on the bottom or the pins on the top. and yes a logic analyzer would help.

                          if lacking then starting with replacing the w5500 would be my bet, or you could try https://forum.duet3d.com/post/127089 - or as Phaedrux suggest maybe a refurbished exchange.

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                            j3d
                            last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 02:51

                            Do you happen to know what the SPI frequency is?

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                              A Former User
                              last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 03:11

                              not sure, but i think <=12mhz (could be 1mhz but not too familiar with the code, which is also available on the duet3d github)

                              (also stepper drivers on the maestro use uart, not spi)

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                                j3d
                                last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 17:16

                                I just received a response from my reseller saying that Duet discontinued the Maestro? Is this true? I haven't been able to find it in stock anywhere in Canada.

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator @j3d
                                  last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 18:18

                                  @j3d Yes, that is correct. The Maestro is no longer being made, though there may still be some boards out in the wild for sale.

                                  The replacement board is the Duet3 Mini5+ which is currently in early production and hitting retailers now.

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                                    j3d
                                    last edited by j3d 14 Jan 2021, 03:26

                                    @dc42 Is there any way that we can try and debug the SPI connection between the MCU and the PHY through firmware?

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 04:25

                                      @Phaedrux said in Maestro issues (Firmware not updating and no ethernet):

                                      If you wish you can contact roland@duet3d.com and inquire about doing an exchange for a refurbished board at reduced cost, subject to availability.

                                      Have you taken advantage of this yet?

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                                        j3d @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 15:53

                                        @Phaedrux I have sent off an email, yes.

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