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    • Lihyonundefined
      Lihyon
      last edited by

      Im building a delta printer right now using a duet wifi 2 and smart effector running rrf3.

      set my z0 tested g29 on a spare glass bed before using my flexible alu one because it didn't arrive at that point and this is the result bed.JPG
      looks pretty good to me

      so i installed my other printbed when it arrived deleted HeightMap.csv restarted the printer and used g29 again to see this bed2.png
      i thought to my self well maybe it has really a lot of warping or something and i forgot to set the new z0 so i went back to the glass bed i probed before deleted HeightMap.csv restarted and it looks also like a mess now bed3.JPG

      i tryed a lot of different setting for the probe on the smart effector but cant seem to find a solution maybe its just busted somehow.

      the other thing i noticed is that i cant set a custom sensitivity using

      M672 S105:aaa:bbb
      

      but resetting it

      M672 S131:131
      

      works fine and flashes 5 times

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.2
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                                    ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                                    ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Delta"                                          ; set printer name
      M665 R190 L440.35 B190 H415                           ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
      M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                          ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
      
      ; Network
      M552 S1                                                ; enable network
      M586 P0 S1                                             ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                                             ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                                             ; disable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1                                             ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                                             ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1                                             ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S0                                             ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                       ; set drive mapping
      M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E32 I0                                ; configure microstepping without interpolation
      M92 X320 Y320 Z320 E812.5                              ; set steps per mm
      M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00               ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00               ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X2000 Y2000 Z2000 E1200 I30                       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                                ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 Z0 S1                                             ; set minimum Z
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                    ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
      M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                    ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
      M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop"                                    ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P8 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" X0 Y0 Z0 H35 R0.4 F1200 T4500 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
      G31  P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 R160 S20 ; Define mesh grid
      ;M672 S105:25:255 ;M672 S105:50:255
      ;M558 P8 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" R0.4 H5 F1200 T6000   ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
      ;G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.05                                   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      ;M557 R190 S20                                          ; define mesh grid
      
      ;Heatbed 
      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4300 C0 R4700	         ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                  ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 A137.8 C533.3 D1.5 V24.3 B0                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                                ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S110                                           ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 110C
      
      ;Hotend
      M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e1temp
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                   ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                       ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S285                                           ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 285C
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500   
      M106 P0 C"Hotend" S0 H1 T45                             ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                    ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 C"Part Cooling" S0 H-1                         ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500                                   ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                       ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                        ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                           ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600                                      ; enable support for PanelDue
      M106 P2 C"LED" S1 H-1                                  ; LED Light
      
      
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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Can you provide the results of M122 and M98 P"config.g" please?

        G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1; You've got two spaces after the G31. Not sure if that will be a problem or not.

        M558 P8 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" X0 Y0 Z0 X0 Y0 Z0 is no longer used so remove those.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • Lihyonundefined
          Lihyon
          last edited by

          i got rid of x0 y0 z0 and the extra space didn't make a difference, here are my M98 and M122 P"config.g"

          M98 P"config.g"
          HTTP is enabled on port 80
          FTP is disabled
          TELNET is disabled
          
          M122 P"config.g"
          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
          Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N85T0-6J9FL-3SD6M-1SSMN
          Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (14 max)
          === RTOS ===
          Static ram: 23460
          Dynamic ram: 72536 of which 60 recycled
          Never used RAM 16024, free system stack 101 words
          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,193) HEAT(blocked,307) MAIN(running,472) IDLE(ready,19)
          Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN)
          === Platform ===
          Last reset 00:11:55 ago, cause: software
          Last software reset at 2021-03-19 23:14, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 16060, slot 0
          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
          Error status: 0x00
          Aux0 errors 0,0,0
          MCU temperature: min 33.8, current 35.3, max 35.8
          Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.1, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          Driver 0: position 106237, standstill, SG min/max 0/368
          Driver 1: position 125544, standstill, SG min/max 0/386
          Driver 2: position 149846, standstill, SG min/max 0/362
          Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
          Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
          Driver 5: position 0
          Driver 6: position 0
          Driver 7: position 0
          Driver 8: position 0
          Driver 9: position 0
          Driver 10: position 0
          Driver 11: position 0
          Date/time: 2021-03-19 23:26:07
          Cache data hit count 747146687
          Slowest loop: 42.73ms; fastest: 0.16ms
          I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
          === Storage ===
          Free file entries: 10
          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
          SD card longest read time 3.9ms, write time 9.2ms, max retries 0
          === Move ===
          DMs created 83, maxWait 84543ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
          === MainDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 587, completed moves 587, hiccups 614, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === AuxDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === Heat ===
          Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
          === GCodes ===
          Segments left: 0
          Movement lock held by null
          HTTP is ready with "M122 P"config.g"" in state(s) 0
          Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
          File is idle in state(s) 0
          USB is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux is idle in state(s) 0
          Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
          Queue is idle in state(s) 0
          LCD is idle in state(s) 0
          Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
          Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
          Code queue is empty.
          === Network ===
          Slowest loop: 149.92ms; fastest: 0.00ms
          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
          - WiFi -
          Network state is active
          WiFi module is connected to access point 
          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
          WiFi firmware version 1.23
          WiFi MAC address 84:0d:8e:b3:bc:a6
          WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 20248
          WiFi IP address 192.168.178.66
          WiFi signal strength -74dBm, mode none, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
          Clock register ffffffff
          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
          
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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux

            Try updating to 3.2.2 by uploading this zip file as is to the system tab.

            https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2.2/Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.2.zip

            Such an exaggerated cone shape of the heightmap seems to indicate a rod length problem based on this: http://boim.com/DeltaUtil/CalDoc/Calibration.html

            I've never seen anything so extreme though.

            Can you post your bed.g as well?

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • Lihyonundefined
              Lihyon
              last edited by

              im going to make the firmware update now.
              The rods i got are made by Haydn Huntley's and labeled each 440.35 one of them is 440.34

              i tried a couple different bed.g files. My understanding was that the bed.g isn't used for g29 which is run before delta calibration G32 but for all i know this might be totally wrong.
              On the side i ordered another smart effector.

              M561                    ; clear any bed transform
              
              ; If the printer hasn't been homed, home it
              if !move.axes[0].homed || !move.axes[1].homed || !move.axes[2].homed
                G28
              
              ; Probe the bed and do auto calibration
              G1 X0 Y0 Z10 F10000        ; go to just above the first probe point
              while true
                if iterations = 5
                  abort "too many auto calibration attempts"
                G30 P0 X0.00 Y150.00 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P1 X96.42 Y114.91 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P2 X147.72 Y26.05 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P3 X129.90 Y-75.00 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P4 X51.30 Y-140.95 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P5 X-51.30 Y-140.95 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P6 X-129.90 Y-75.00 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P7 X-147.72 Y26.05 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P8 X-96.42 Y114.91 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P9 X0.00 Y75.00 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P10 X64.95 Y37.50 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P11 X64.95 Y-37.50 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P12 X0.00 Y-75.00 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P13 X-64.95 Y-37.50 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P14 X-64.95 Y37.50 Z-99999 H0
                if result != 0
                    continue
                G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S8
                if result != 0
                    continue
              
                if move.calibration.final.deviation <= 0.07
                  break
                echo "Repeating calibration because deviation is too high (" ^ move.calibration.final.deviation ^ "mm)"
              ; end loop
              echo "Auto calibration successful, deviation", move.calibration.final.deviation ^ "mm"
              
              G30 S-3
              G1 Z50
              
              ; Probe the bed at 6 peripheral and 3 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
              ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
              ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
              ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 170, probe offset (0, 0)
              ; Auto calibration routine for large delta printer
              ;M561                    ; clear any bed transform
              
              ; If the printer hasn't been homed, home it
              G28
              
              ; Probe the bed and do auto calibration
              G1 X0 Y0 Z10 F10000        ; go to just above the first probe point
              G30 P0 X0.00 Y190.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P1 X122.13 Y145.55 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P2 X187.11 Y32.99 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P3 X164.54 Y-95.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P4 X64.98 Y-178.54 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P5 X-64.98 Y-178.54 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P6 X-164.54 Y-95.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P7 X-187.11 Y32.99 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P8 X-122.13 Y145.55 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P9 X0.00 Y95.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P10 X82.27 Y47.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P11 X82.27 Y-47.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P12 X0.00 Y-95.00 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P13 X-82.27 Y-47.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P14 X-82.27 Y47.50 Z-99999 H0
              G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S7
              
              G1 Z50
              
              M561 ; clear any bed transform
              G28  ; home all towers
              ; Probe the bed at 10 peripheral and 6 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
              ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
              G30 P0 X0 Y184.9 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P1 X108.68 Y149.59 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P2 X175.85 Y57.14 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P3 X175.85 Y-57.14 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P4 X108.68 Y-149.59 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P5 X0 Y-184.9 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P6 X-108.68 Y-149.59 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P7 X-175.85 Y-57.14 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P8 X-175.85 Y57.14 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P9 X-108.68 Y149.59 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P10 X0 Y92.4 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P11 X80.02 Y46.2 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P12 X80.02 Y-46.2 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P13 X0 Y-92.4 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P14 X-80.02 Y-46.2 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P15 X-80.02 Y46.2 H0 Z-99999
              G30 P16 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
              
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              • Lihyonundefined
                Lihyon
                last edited by Lihyon

                it fails to upload the firmware files
                Edit: i managed to install it

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                • Lihyonundefined
                  Lihyon @Lihyon
                  last edited by

                  @Lihyon said in delta smart effector hightmap mess:

                  it fails to upload the firmware files
                  Edit: i managed to install it

                  the results aren't much different

                  Number of points: 277
                  Probing radius: 185 mm
                  Probe area: 1075.2 cm²
                  Maximum deviations: -0.870 / 15.173 mm
                  Mean error: 7.258 mm
                  RMS error: 4.668 mm
                  
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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    bed.g is G32.

                    What order are you running things? There should be G28 to home the towers, G32 to do an auto calibration, and then G29 to map the bed surface.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • engikeneerundefined
                      engikeneer @Lihyon
                      last edited by

                      @Lihyon Looking at the errors in your results, one point is measured 15mm above the z=0 datum!

                      In your bed.g, you need to uncomment the M561 to make sure you don't have mesh compensation enabled when ddoing the calibration. if you don't it will be calibrating a mesh-compensated bed and you'll only bake in the errors you're seeing in your heightmap.

                      E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                      Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                      i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                      • Lihyonundefined
                        Lihyon @Phaedrux
                        last edited by Lihyon

                        @Phaedrux i found my biggest mistake so far, its silly

                        M665 R190 L440.35 B190 H415                           ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                        

                        R is supposed to be R230.6.
                        and i was running M561 - g29 s2 - g29 - g32 but i guess im suppose to do g32 - g29 so i added g29 on the end of my bed.g for now

                        now im facing this issue that the probe doesn't trigger at some point and runs into the bed but not right away like halve way through probing

                        21.3.2021, 22:02:40	Error: Z probe was not triggered during probing move   while g29
                        21.3.2021, 21:58:29	Z probe trigger height set to 0.018 mm                  G30 S-3 included in bed.g
                        21.3.2021, 21:58:28	G32
                        Calibrated 8 factors using 16 points, (mean, deviation) before (-0.643, 0.353) after (-0.000, 0.037)
                        Auto calibration successful, deviation 0.037mm
                        
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                        • Lihyonundefined
                          Lihyon @engikeneer
                          last edited by Lihyon

                          @engikeneer but M561 disables any existing bed compensation or not?
                          EDIT: well i tried and didn't make a difference

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                            Lihyon
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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Maybe a sensitivity issue?

                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Section_Commissioning

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                              • Lihyonundefined
                                Lihyon
                                last edited by

                                setting the sensitivity just doesn't work its suppose to blink 3 times when changed but does not

                                example
                                M672 S105:25:255
                                

                                i found the firmware for it but im struggling to find out how to use Atmel Studio 7 to compile it or upload it

                                https://github.com/Duet3D/SmartEffectorFirmware

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by Phaedrux

                                  How old is the smart effector? Does it have a revision number on the PCB?

                                  What does it respond with if you send M672 by itself?

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • Lihyonundefined
                                    Lihyon
                                    last edited by

                                    its says pcb Revision 2.0 CERL OHL 1.2 on it
                                    and M672 spits out

                                    Error: M672: No program bytes provided
                                    
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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @Lihyon
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lihyon said in delta smart effector hightmap mess:

                                      setting the sensitivity just doesn't work its suppose to blink 3 times when changed but does not

                                      example
                                      M672 S105:25:255
                                      

                                      i found the firmware for it but im struggling to find out how to use Atmel Studio 7 to compile it or upload it

                                      https://github.com/Duet3D/SmartEffectorFirmware

                                      You don't need to build it, you can download the .elf or .hex file from the release at https://github.com/Duet3D/SmartEffectorFirmware/releases/tag/2.01.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • garyd9undefined
                                        garyd9
                                        last edited by garyd9

                                        @Lihyon said in delta smart effector hightmap mess:

                                        setting the sensitivity just doesn't work its suppose to blink 3 times when changed but does not

                                        I've noticed oddities with changing the sensitivity of the smart effector. At times, the smart effector seems to lose the sensitivity setting (often after a reset or power off/on) and it has to be set again.

                                        When this happens, about 50% of the time sending either the "set" (M672 S105:aaa:bbb) or "revert" (M672 S131:131) commands does nothing whatsoever in regards to the smart effector LED and I have to power it off/on again.

                                        My suggestion would be to power off the machine, wait 10 seconds, and power it back on again. Then set the sensitivity and see if the smart effector responds properly. (It should blink 4 times in response.)

                                        example
                                        M672 S105:25:255
                                        

                                        That's not a valid combination. If the first number is 25, the second number should be
                                        230 (255-25 = 230)

                                        "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                                        • Lihyonundefined
                                          Lihyon
                                          last edited by

                                          Thank you for everyone's help i really appreciate it !
                                          After installing a new smart effector it seems to work !

                                          @dc42 after uploading .hex to the printer it saves my sensitivity
                                          @garyd9 that was the last puzzle piece i completely misunderstood the instructions given

                                          To program the sensor, send command M672 S105:aaa:bbb replacing aaa by the desired sensitivity and bbb by 255 - aaa.
                                          

                                          bed3.JPG

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                                          • garyd9undefined
                                            garyd9
                                            last edited by

                                            @Lihyon said in delta smart effector hightmap mess:

                                            @dc42 after uploading .hex to the printer it saves my sensitivity

                                            Umm.. I thought the only way to update the smart effector's firmware was using special hardware.

                                            Is that ability built into the duet firmware now? (I'd love to get that fix on my smart effector, but didn't think it would be feasible for me.)

                                            "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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