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    How to power the Mini5P from external 5V (no SBC)?

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    • Nurgelrotundefined
      Nurgelrot @zapta
      last edited by Nurgelrot

      @zapta I have a Mini5 configured in exactly this way. Can't say that I actually use the relay much and I may change it because of that.

      I have a good quality (meanwell) 5v psu and a 24V psu both wired to the same mains switch. The mains passed through the AC side of the 5v psu and goes to a NO High Trigger relay before the 24V psu to control VIN.

      Out from the 5v psu I have power lines running to 5v_EXT_in on the Mini5.

      Also Out on the 5v I have 2 +5v lines one running to DC+ and IN on the DC side of the relay.

      Then a single wire runs from the pson pin on the Mini5 to DC- on the relay.

      24v VIN is wired normally after the relay.

      In config.g very near the top I have a M80 to close the relay and apply 24V when the 5v power is applied. I can then turn off 24v from the duet as desired.

      Hope that makes sense. Please be sure of what you are doing before hooking stuff up.

      Also note that all of this is using the same ground. If you mix a ground in from another source bad things will probably happen.

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      • zaptaundefined
        zapta @Nurgelrot
        last edited by zapta

        @nurgelrot, I think your system is exactly what I would to have here.

        1. What relay are you using? I got Digikey CCM1871-ND. It's a 30A relay (used with a flyback diode).

        https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-connectivity-potter-brumfield-relays/T9AS1D12-5/1095335

        1. I understand that all the AC grounds should be connected and all the DC (-) should be connected but am still debating if to connect the grounds and the (-). In my current printer the DC is floating.

        2. My frame is well grounded (in a few places, with anodize removed) but the X/Y rails of the gantry are not (this is a Voron 2.4, the gantry also moves on the Z axis). I may ground it as well.

        3. I also install a wall socket with a GFCI interrupter so any AC leak to ground will cut power immediately.

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        • Nurgelrotundefined
          Nurgelrot @zapta
          last edited by

          @zapta Mine is just a generic 10A https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-Channel-optocoupler-Support-Trigger/dp/B00LW15A4W/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=relay+switch&qid=1629233141&sr=8-6 Seems to be fine for this application.

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          • zaptaundefined
            zapta @Nurgelrot
            last edited by

            @nurgelrot, I picked a 30A relay for a concern regarding the inrush current of the UHP-200-24 power supply (40A@110VAC, 80A@220VAC).

            Got this din rail mounted 12VDC relay and replace with a similar one for 5VDC relay.

            https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UA46BFE

            Was not sure how the relay continuous current rating applies to momentay inrush current.

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            • zaptaundefined
              zapta @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt said in How to power the Mini5P from external 5V (no SBC)?:

              In the years I have been building and using 3D printers I have never encountered a need for this sort of setup.

              Around here our homes are built of dry wood. May require more fire awareness than those bricks dwellers.

              😉

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @zapta
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                @zapta said in How to power the Mini5P from external 5V (no SBC)?:

                @fcwilt said in How to power the Mini5P from external 5V (no SBC)?:

                In the years I have been building and using 3D printers I have never encountered a need for this sort of setup.

                Around here our homes are built of dry wood. May require more fire awareness than those bricks dwellers.

                😉

                I don't leave my printers while they are printing.

                Little things can happen that need attention - such as a filament break - or loss of bed adhesion leading to quite a mess.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • Nurgelrotundefined
                  Nurgelrot @zapta
                  last edited by Nurgelrot

                  @zapta said in How to power the Mini5P from external 5V (no SBC)?:

                  (40A@110VAC

                  That's like 4500 watts... If I had something hooked up that could draw 40amps over a 110 line I'd be worried about fire too... and 80@220??? you sure you're not arc welding instead of 3d printing?

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