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    • BlitzRegundefined
      BlitzReg @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @phaedrux

      m122

      5/5/2022, 2:20:12 PM m122
      === Diagnostics ===
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0 (2022-03-15 18:58:31) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
      Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L2MS8-6J1FL-3S06N-KBHGP
      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (13 max)
      === RTOS ===
      Static ram: 23868
      Dynamic ram: 74568 of which 40 recycled
      Never used RAM 13604, free system stack 184 words
      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,13.1%,236) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,332) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,364) MAIN(running,86.8%,440) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30), total 100.0%
      Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
      === Platform ===
      Last reset 01:05:34 ago, cause: software
      Last software reset at 2022-05-05 13:14, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 13604, slot 0
      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
      Error status: 0x00
      Aux0 errors 0,0,0
      Step timer max interval 0
      MCU temperature: min 21.9, current 23.6, max 24.0
      Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.2, max 24.4, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
      Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
      Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
      Driver 0: standstill, SG min n/a
      Driver 1: standstill, SG min n/a
      Driver 2: standstill, SG min n/a
      Driver 3: standstill, SG min n/a
      Driver 4: standstill, SG min n/a
      Driver 5:
      Driver 6:
      Driver 7:
      Driver 8:
      Driver 9:
      Driver 10:
      Driver 11:
      Date/time: 2022-05-05 14:20:10
      Cache data hit count 4294967295
      Slowest loop: 4.93ms; fastest: 0.18ms
      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
      === Storage ===
      Free file entries: 10
      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
      SD card longest read time 3.6ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
      === Move ===
      DMs created 83, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
      === MainDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === AuxDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === Heat ===
      Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
      Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
      === GCodes ===
      Segments left: 0
      Movement lock held by null
      HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
      File is idle in state(s) 0
      USB is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
      Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
      LCD is idle in state(s) 0
      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
      Code queue is empty
      === Network ===
      Slowest loop: 15.75ms; fastest: 0.00ms
      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

      • WiFi -
        Network state is active
        WiFi module is connected to access point
        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
        WiFi firmware version 1.26
        WiFi MAC address 84:0d:8e:b2:1e:40
        WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Turned on by main processor
        WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25976
        WiFi IP address 192.168.86.101
        WiFi signal strength -47dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
        Clock register 00002002
        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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      • BlitzRegundefined
        BlitzReg @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @phaedrux said in PID problems:

        M98 P"config.g"

        5/5/2022, 2:21:34 PM M98 P"config.g"
        HTTP is enabled on port 80
        FTP is disabled
        TELNET is disabled
        Error: Heater 7 not found

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        • BlitzRegundefined
          BlitzReg @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @phaedrux yes external mosfet

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          • BlitzRegundefined
            BlitzReg @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux I'm running pid tune now on the bed. The bed with a IR gun is 10C higher then what the thermistor is showing

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            • BlitzRegundefined
              BlitzReg @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux
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              • BlitzRegundefined
                BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux 9c3cc138-8cba-4236-a667-74ba00185fee-image.png

                Yes, just looked up what I purchased and they are 3950. So , do I put B3950 ?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @BlitzReg
                  last edited by

                  @blitzreg said in PID problems:

                  So , do I put B3950 ?

                  Yes.

                  M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950

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                  • BlitzRegundefined
                    BlitzReg @Phaedrux
                    last edited by BlitzReg

                    @phaedrux hi so no C0 R4700 behind B3950? I'm running it now

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                    • BlitzRegundefined
                      BlitzReg @Phaedrux
                      last edited by BlitzReg

                      @phaedrux right now the thermistor in phase 3 reads 84 and the IR gun shows 96. Makes me wonder if the thermistor is bad

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Where is the thermistor positioned to get the reading?

                        Are you measuring with the IR temp gun in the same location?

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                        • BlitzRegundefined
                          BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                          @phaedrux no, I actually testing it all 4 corners and in the middle where the thermistor is located

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                          • BlitzRegundefined
                            BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux Almost 1 hour on phase 3. My other hypercube has already tuned using firm ware 1.21. now I'm wondering when I tell the extruder to heat to 220C its actually 220C. My first prints off them looked like they got pretty hot. I am using the e3d hemeria w/volcano direct drive. I also have their REVO

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              For the hotend you have a known thermistor and the correct values from E3D, so it should be as accurate as you can expect.

                              As for the bed, at 24v it takes a long time to heat up and it does many cycles, so it can take quite a while. Rather than tuning to 90c, try a more reachable temp like 60.

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                              • BlitzRegundefined
                                BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux Hi, the problem was the thermistor in the bed. I swapped it out and now the temps are almost the same between the panel and the IR Gun. Now the gremlin has move to the extruder. I have a REVO Hermera direct drive and it keeps getting heater faults. I have ver 3.4.0 and ran M303 T0 S240 and it tunes fine. But I noticed the the temp rises above the print temperature I set and keeps going until there is a heater fault.

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                                  BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                                  • BlitzRegundefined
                                    BlitzReg @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux Why is it saying Heater 0 when the fault happens on heater 1 the extruder? Not sure what is happening here!

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @BlitzReg
                                      last edited by

                                      @blitzreg said in PID problems:

                                      @phaedrux Why is it saying Heater 0 when the fault happens on heater 1 the extruder? Not sure what is happening here!

                                      I think that is a bug in the displayed heater. Please update to 3.4.1 RC1

                                      https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.1rc1

                                      What did your tuned values result in?

                                      If the part cooling fan doesn't have a big impact on the heater, you can tune the hotend as a normal heater with M303 H1 S240 and see if it behaves better.

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