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    • BlitzRegundefined
      BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux yes external mosfet

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      • BlitzRegundefined
        BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux I'm running pid tune now on the bed. The bed with a IR gun is 10C higher then what the thermistor is showing

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          BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux
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          • BlitzRegundefined
            BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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            Yes, just looked up what I purchased and they are 3950. So , do I put B3950 ?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @BlitzReg
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              @blitzreg said in PID problems:

              So , do I put B3950 ?

              Yes.

              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950

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              • BlitzRegundefined
                BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux hi so no C0 R4700 behind B3950? I'm running it now

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                • BlitzRegundefined
                  BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux right now the thermistor in phase 3 reads 84 and the IR gun shows 96. Makes me wonder if the thermistor is bad

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    Where is the thermistor positioned to get the reading?

                    Are you measuring with the IR temp gun in the same location?

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                    • BlitzRegundefined
                      BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux no, I actually testing it all 4 corners and in the middle where the thermistor is located

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                      • BlitzRegundefined
                        BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                        @phaedrux Almost 1 hour on phase 3. My other hypercube has already tuned using firm ware 1.21. now I'm wondering when I tell the extruder to heat to 220C its actually 220C. My first prints off them looked like they got pretty hot. I am using the e3d hemeria w/volcano direct drive. I also have their REVO

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          For the hotend you have a known thermistor and the correct values from E3D, so it should be as accurate as you can expect.

                          As for the bed, at 24v it takes a long time to heat up and it does many cycles, so it can take quite a while. Rather than tuning to 90c, try a more reachable temp like 60.

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                            BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux Hi, the problem was the thermistor in the bed. I swapped it out and now the temps are almost the same between the panel and the IR Gun. Now the gremlin has move to the extruder. I have a REVO Hermera direct drive and it keeps getting heater faults. I have ver 3.4.0 and ran M303 T0 S240 and it tunes fine. But I noticed the the temp rises above the print temperature I set and keeps going until there is a heater fault.

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                              BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                                BlitzReg @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux Why is it saying Heater 0 when the fault happens on heater 1 the extruder? Not sure what is happening here!

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @BlitzReg
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                                  @blitzreg said in PID problems:

                                  @phaedrux Why is it saying Heater 0 when the fault happens on heater 1 the extruder? Not sure what is happening here!

                                  I think that is a bug in the displayed heater. Please update to 3.4.1 RC1

                                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.1rc1

                                  What did your tuned values result in?

                                  If the part cooling fan doesn't have a big impact on the heater, you can tune the hotend as a normal heater with M303 H1 S240 and see if it behaves better.

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