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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @A Former User
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      @fcwilt Z's going backwards. When I click on Z+0.5 it goes DOWN.

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @A Former User
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        @mac @fcwilt you had the z probe working. Using an endstop on the low end is a retrograde step.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          A Former User @droftarts
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          @droftarts hey, Ian, welcome to the show, what is a "retrograde step?"

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @droftarts
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            @droftarts said in I could use some help:

            @mac @fcwilt you had the z probe working. Using an endstop on the low end is a retrograde step.

            Ian

            In your opinion. I see it as a distinct improvement.

            X and Y can be homed with no Z movement required.

            And generally Z homing can be faster.

            But that is just my opinion.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              A Former User @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt @droftarts oh my god! what have I gotten myself between and betwixtd?

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @A Former User
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                @mac said in I could use some help:

                @fcwilt Z's going backwards. When I click on Z+0.5 it goes DOWN.

                Then adjust the M569 for that Z drive and change it from normal to reverse or reverse to normal - the opposite of what it is now.

                Re-boot and re-test.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  A Former User @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt

                  M569 P0.3 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                  
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                    A Former User @A Former User
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                    @fcwilt so I'm thinking I should change the S1 to S0? (I don't know that 0 means reverse, or the opposite of, I'm just surmising that's what I should do).

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @A Former User
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                      @mac said in I could use some help:

                      @fcwilt

                      M569 P0.3 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                      

                      So you don't know what to change?

                      OK here you go:

                      The P specifies the driver number which you have as 0.3 which sounds fine.

                      The S specifies the direction with S1 being normal and S0 being reverse.

                      Don't get hung up on normal and reverse - there really is no standard for what rotation is considered normal and what is considered reverse.

                      So since you have S1 change it to S0, re-boot and re-test.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt nice to have that fan stop rattling away. I'm glad I figured that out, and thank you for the additional information. I was thinking of that song, One way, and another, when I read about there being no "normal and reverse."

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt look at his bed. It’s not 10mm cast aluminium plate, well-constrained and moving on linear rails. It’s a (please forgive me, @Mac ) cheap bedslinger setup. He’s going to need mesh compensation to have half a chance getting the first layer to stick. The probe was working fine. Fiddling around with a Z min endstop is excruciating with flimsy beds.

                          Doing kids bath and bed. Not around for a while.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User @droftarts
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                            @droftarts @fcwilt

                            M569 P0.3 S0                                       ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                            
                            

                            Why is it never easy?

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User @droftarts
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                              @droftarts kids need their Dad, I had 3 (they're all adults now, although the oldest is living with us currently). Thank you for being so helpful Ian!

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                                A Former User @A Former User
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                                @fcwilt are we okay even though the code still says "forwards?"

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @A Former User
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                                  @mac said in I could use some help:

                                  @fcwilt are we okay even though the code still says "forwards?"

                                  Everything after the ; character is just a comment - it affects nothing - you could put a line from a Shakespeare play there and it would make no difference at all.

                                  All that matters is you find the right S parameter so the Z axis moves in the correct direction.

                                  And the same is true for X and Y - if it turns out they are not moving in the correct direction.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @droftarts
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                                    @droftarts said in I could use some help:

                                    @fcwilt look at his bed. It’s not 10mm cast aluminium plate, well-constrained and moving on linear rails. It’s a (please forgive me, @Mac ) cheap bedslinger setup. He’s going to need mesh compensation to have half a chance getting the first layer to stick. The probe was working fine. Fiddling around with a Z min endstop is excruciating with flimsy beds.

                                    Doing kids bath and bed. Not around for a while.

                                    Ian

                                    Rest assured Mesh Bed Compensation will be implemented.

                                    One small step at a time.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      A Former User @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt got it, I've offended you. Please accept my apologies. I've spent 70 years making life miserable for others. It's hard to get out of that habit.

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                                        A Former User @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt I'm not opposed to buying a decent bed. Given that the one I have on this printer now has failed the PID tests horribly, I'm looking for a good bed. Any recommendations you can provide (preferably links that will make you some money), would be appreciated.

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @A Former User
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                                          @mac said in I could use some help:

                                          @fcwilt got it, I've offended you. Please accept my apologies. I've spent 70 years making life miserable for others. It's hard to get out of that habit.

                                          I'm not offended at all.

                                          I'm glad we are making progress.

                                          I hope we can get Z working.

                                          If we can do that, I think you can get X and Y working on your own since the issues are the same and the homing code is pretty much the same, just specifying a different axis.

                                          I am running out of time today though.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                            A Former User @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt My BLV rebuild of my old Anet A8 had linear rails. Marvelous kit, those. I still have them, and putting them on this POS seems possible with a little elbow grease and a drill press (both of which I have).

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