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    900turbo @jay_s_uk
    last edited by 18 Apr 2023, 14:18

    @jay_s_uk 02d0ad8c-b0d8-42d9-a95f-0a712ce69de0-image.png This is what i receive when trying to tune.
    Will take photos and post config.

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      900turbo @jay_s_uk
      last edited by 18 Apr 2023, 14:20

      @jay_s_uk ; Configuration file for Duet 3 MB 6XD (firmware version 3.3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.16 on Mon Apr 17 2023 13:03:57 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)

      ; General preferences
      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

      ; Drives
      M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
      M569 P0.4 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M584 X0.5 Y0.4 Z0.1 E0.3 ; set drive mapping
      M92 X53.33 Y53.33 Z53.33 E436.54 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 X700 Y700 Z1700 S0 ; set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"121.io2.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin 121.io2.in
      M574 Y1 S1 P"io0.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io0.in
      M574 Z1 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Z via pin io1.in

      ; Z-Probe
      M950 S0 C"121.io0.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
      M558 P9 C"121.io0.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      M558 H30 ;*** Remove this line after delta calibration has been done and new delta parameters have been saved
      G31 P500 X0 Y23.56 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X0:700 Y23.56:700 S34.4; define mesh grid

      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S70 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 70C
      M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8
      M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S300 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C

      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"121.out1" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"121.out2" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ; Custom settings are not defined

      ; Miscellaneous
      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
      T0 ; select first tool

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        900turbo @jay_s_uk
        last edited by 18 Apr 2023, 14:23

        @jay_s_uk 321BFC1A-7541-4A8A-B377-7DA22D0DBF7F.jpeg C3D695D0-83EE-463F-86E4-4439A8BDDC4A.jpeg
        Here are my drivers and how I’ve wired them as recommended by Duet

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          chrishamm administrators @900turbo
          last edited by chrishamm 18 Apr 2023, 16:08

          @900turbo Try to add Q10 to your config as @jay_s_uk suggested. The default PWM frequency is way too high for an SSR:

          M950 H0 C"out0" T0 Q10 ; create bed heater output on out0 driven at 10Hz and map it to sensor 0
          

          Bang-bang control may be even better for an SSR.

          Duet software engineer

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            900turbo @chrishamm
            last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 07:42

            @chrishamm Thanks for the advice added this to my config but Im still having the same issue.
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              900turbo @chrishamm
              last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 07:46

              @chrishamm I should note I do also currently have bang-bang mode enabled on the config.

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                chrishamm administrators @900turbo
                last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 07:48

                @900turbo Please check your SSR, it looks like it does not turn on. If it does, the connection between SSR and your heated bed may be dodgy. Also, you should tune your heaters before you actually try to use them or you will get more heater faults.

                Note that the heater should turn on as well as soon as you start heater tuning.

                Duet software engineer

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                  900turbo @chrishamm
                  last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:04

                  @chrishamm Checked my SSR with a multimeter and its reading 0.8 which suggests it Is not burnt out. I have gone back over the connection to the heated bed and there is no damage or exposed wiring or a open circuit. So I am a bit lost as to what's wrong.

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                    chrishamm administrators @900turbo
                    last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:06

                    @900turbo Does the LED next to out0 turn on when you start heater tuning? And do you measure Vin or 12V across the inputs of the SSR while it's lit?

                    Duet software engineer

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                      900turbo @chrishamm
                      last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:14

                      @chrishamm The LED next to out0 does turn on. I should note the heated bed is extremely big 700x700mm could this have any effect? What do you mean by that is in take those measurements whilst the SSR is on?

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                        chrishamm administrators @900turbo
                        last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:22

                        @900turbo It depends on the power of your bed heater but there should be at least some temperature rise, which is not detected by the firmware. Hence my suspicion that the control signal from the Duet does not turn on your SSR. That's why I suggest to check if there is enough voltage across the control input of the SSR to make it turn on.

                        Duet software engineer

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                          900turbo @chrishamm
                          last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:26

                          @chrishamm just checked the SSR is getting 21.9 V more than enough to turn it on not just that but its green LED is constantly on suggesting its receiving more than enough power to function properly.

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                            900turbo @900turbo
                            last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:27

                            @900turbo
                            Here is the entire Heater Config
                            ; Heaters
                            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                            M950 H0 C"out0" T0 Q10 ; create bed heater output on out0 driven at 10Hz and map it to sensor 0
                            M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                            M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                            M143 H0 S70 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 70C
                            M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8
                            M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
                            M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                            M143 H1 S300 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C

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                              chrishamm administrators @900turbo
                              last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:31

                              @900turbo So how much power does your bed heater have? How long does it take with the heater turned on before you can actually see a difference in temperature?

                              Duet software engineer

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                                900turbo @chrishamm
                                last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:33

                                @chrishamm How would I find that out ? Nothing happens when you try to raise the temperature I get this notification.
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                                  chrishamm administrators @900turbo
                                  last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:41

                                  @900turbo Check the resistance of the bed heater and check if there is sufficient input voltage to drive it. To see if it does anything, you could use a manual switch instead of the SSR and check if the bed heater gets warm at all. If it does, you should see a temperature increase on the web UI as well.

                                  The firmware does not see any change in temperature indicating that your bed heater element is not working. Your config and SSR input voltage look fine to me.

                                  Duet software engineer

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                                    deckingman @900turbo
                                    last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:51

                                    @900turbo I've only had a quick scan through this thread so I may have missed something, but it seems to me that the SSR is being turned on but that the heater isn't actually heating. Which would indicate that there is no power reaching the heater from the output side of the SSR - or the heater itself might be faulty. As @chrishamm has said, the first thing to check would be heater itself. Without any power, disconnect the heater and check the resistance across the two wires. We'd need to know what the rated voltage and wattage of the heater is in order to calculate what the resistance should be. As an example, for a 700mm x 700mm build plate, I'd assume something like 800 watts? If it was 240 V then the current draw would be about 3 amps so we'd expect a resistance in the order of about 3.3 A which would mean the resistance ought to be in the region of 80 Ohms. But we'd need to know the actual voltage and wattage specification of the heater to calculate roughly what resistance it should be. If the resistance is about right, check the voltage across the heater itself but be very careful as you are likely dealing with mains voltage.

                                    Ian
                                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      900turbo @chrishamm
                                      last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 09:00

                                      @chrishamm The bed heater is giving me a resistance of 147.9 , how would i check the input voltage?

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                                        900turbo @deckingman
                                        last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 09:05

                                        @deckingman
                                        Thanks Ian , I believe the SSR is turning on , I agree it seems no power is reaching the heater beyond the SSR output. I did look into the bed and there was no markings or serial numbers however previously I asked about this in the forum.
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                                          900turbo @900turbo
                                          last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 09:06

                                          @900turbo "check the voltage across the heater itself but be very careful as you are likely dealing with mains voltage." How would I do this correctly?

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