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    • OwenDundefined
      OwenD @charliedrums
      last edited by

      @charliedrums
      Have you scanned the Gcode at that area?
      I once had a similar issue that was doing my head in.
      It turned out that in one of the settings in PrusaSlicer, I had a value entered as a percentage when it should have been an 1 based factor.
      So instead of be 75% of the extrusion value, it was 75X the value.
      I never figured out if I made an error, or there was a change in the software (unlikely), or if it was me caopying configs between prusa slicer and super slicer.
      I think it was in overhangs.
      In any case, maybe check for sudden increases in the E values for moves in that area.

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman
        last edited by

        I haven't read this entire thread so I might have missed something but another option/thing to check is if the Z axis is moving properly. If the Z axis has some "stiction" or other movement related issue which prevents it from moving the full layer height, then this can seem like over extrusion. i.e. if you extrude enough filament for (say) 0.3mm layer height but the Z axis has only moved (say) 0.1mm, then this can seem like over extrusion.

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • charliedrumsundefined
          charliedrums @OwenD
          last edited by

          @OwenD I have printed the gcode before. Probably like 30 t50 times and it has always worked. Still gave it a look but found nothing out of the ordinary.

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          • charliedrumsundefined
            charliedrums
            last edited by charliedrums

            Ok, so the new 1LC (v1.3) board came in today. I decided to start everything with a new install on a Pi5. using
            image_2024-04-19-DuetPi-arm64. Once I built the image and assembled everything I updated all the boards thought putty. Interesting that when I do a toolboard diagnostics it says that the toolboard is version 1.1 not 1.3.

            photo_2024-07-01_18-28-07.jpg
            photo_2024-07-01_18-28-08.jpg

            Now whoever I'm having a new problem. After updating everything on FW3.5.2, I go to start the print everything looks good and is heating up as it should but once heating up finishes and it starts to move to the the homing routine a couple of things happen. *Edit Before I start any print or anything I can probe and scan the bed without any problems.

            Error: Expansion board 120 reconnected
            Error: Expansion board 121 reconnected
            

            then the scanning z probe starts scanning the bed and in every pass I get this error.

            Error: Board 120 does not have input handle 3040
            

            and in DWC this is how the teperature is reported after this happens

            Screenshot 2024-07-01 182124.png

            I have no Idea whats going on now. All I did is change the 1LC board.
            Here are the diagnostics. of all boards.

            === Diagnostics ===
            RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.5.2 (2024-06-11 17:13:58) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 (SBC mode)
            Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TN-6JTD0-3SJ6S-1V82V
            Used output buffers: 11 of 40 (40 max)
            === RTOS ===
            Static ram: 155360
            Dynamic ram: 91860 of which 3080 recycled
            Never used RAM 92188, free system stack 136 words
            Tasks: LASER(5,nWait 7,0.0%,169) SBC(2,rWait:,0.9%,801) HEAT(3,nWait 6,0.0%,323) Move(4,nWait 6,1.8%,211) CanReceiv(6,nWait 1,0.0%,794) CanSender(5,nWait 7,0.0%,334) CanClock(7,delaying,0.0%,348) TMC(4,nWait 6,9.6%,53) MAIN(2,running,87.4%,101) IDLE(0,ready,0.2%,29), total 100.0%
            Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
            === Platform ===
            Last reset 00:23:03 ago, cause: power up
            Last software reset at 2024-07-01 18:02, reason: MemoryProtectionFault mmarValid daccViol, Platform spinning, available RAM 92476, slot 1
            Software reset code 0x4160 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000082 ICSR 0x0440f804 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x204198e8 Task IDLE Freestk 20 ok
            Stack: 20419968 00000000 2041999c 20419960 a5a5a5a5 0049a485 0049a0e0 61000000 61000000 a5a5a5a5 2041999c fffc0000 20425daf 20419958 2041995c 43f8e92d 20419960 00000000 ffffffff 004999a9 43f8e92d 00000000 20419960 00000000 00000001 204199e0 4e49414d
            Error status: 0x04
            Aux0 errors 0,0,0
            MCU temperature: min 33.6, current 42.0, max 42.1
            Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
            12V rail voltage: min 12.0, current 12.1, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0
            Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/72/72, gc cycles 0
            Events: 2 queued, 2 completed
            Driver 0: ok, SG min 0, mspos 628, reads 55863, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Driver 1: ok, SG min 0, mspos 913, reads 55863, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 520, reads 55863, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 936, reads 55863, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 952, reads 55863, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Driver 5: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 104, reads 55864, writes 17 timeouts 0
            Date/time: 2024-07-01 18:25:49
            Slowest loop: 77.42ms; fastest: 0.04ms
            === Storage ===
            Free file entries: 20
            SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
            SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
            === Move ===
            DMs created 125, segments created 27, maxWait 199391ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, height map offset 0.000, max steps late 0, min interval 0, bad calcs 0, ebfmin 0.00, ebfmax 0.00
            next step interrupt due in 1 ticks, disabled
            Moves shaped first try 1321, on retry 722, too short 604, wrong shape 12745, maybepossible 120
            === DDARing 0 ===
            Scheduled moves 17499, completed 17443, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state 3
            === DDARing 1 ===
            Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
            === Heat ===
            Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
            Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.1
            === GCodes ===
            Movement locks held by null, null
            HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro
            Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
            File* is doing "G1 X336.225006 Y327.441986 E0.046660" in state(s) 0
            USB is idle in state(s) 0
            Aux is idle in state(s) 0
            Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
            Queue* is idle in state(s) 0
            LCD is idle in state(s) 0
            SBC is idle in state(s) 0
            Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
            Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
            Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
            File2 is idle in state(s) 0
            Queue2 is idle in state(s) 0
            Q0 segments left 1, axes/extruders owned 0x80000007
            Code queue 0 is empty
            Q1 segments left 0, axes/extruders owned 0x0000000
            Code queue 1 is empty
            === Filament sensors ===
            check 0 clear 0
            Extruder 0 sensor: no data received
            === CAN ===
            Messages queued 28613, received 21465, lost 0, errs 641, boc 0
            Longest wait 6ms for reply type 6024, peak Tx sync delay 250, free buffers 50 (min 48), ts 6920/6919/0
            Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
            === SBC interface ===
            Transfer state: 5, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
            RX/TX seq numbers: 53966/53966
            SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
            State: 5, disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0 total, 0 by SBC, IAP RAM available 0x24cfc
            Buffer RX/TX: 3248/48-4096, open files: 0
            === Duet Control Server ===
            Duet Control Server version 3.5.2 (2024-06-12 07:12:47, 64-bit)
            HTTP+Executed:
            > Executing M122
            File 0:/gcodes/Guiro 12in_0.6n_0.3mm_PLA_EXOCUBE_8h39m.gcode is selected, processing
            HTTP:
            >> Doing macro 0:/macros/Diagnostics, started by M98 P"0:/macros/Diagnostics"
            File:
            Buffered code: G1 X336.225 Y327.442 E.04666
            Buffered code: G1 X336.573 Y327.959 E.05293
            Buffered code: G1 X336.881 Y328.464 E.05023
            Buffered code: G1 X337.357 Y329.369 E.08267
            Buffered code: G1 X337.635 Y329.988 E.05459
            Buffered code: G1 X337.85 Y330.524 E.04646
            Buffered code: G1 X338.183 Y331.522 E.08229
            Buffered code: G1 X338.49 Y332.75 E.09722
            Buffered code: G1 X338.669 Y333.816 E.08108
            Buffered code: G1 X338.748 Y334.521 E.05168
            Buffered code: G1 X338.797 Y335.606 E.07913
            Buffered code: G1 X338.763 Y336.843 E.08942
            Buffered code: G1 X338.686 Y337.585 E.05172
            Buffered code: G1 X338.569 Y338.329 E.0515
            Buffered code: G1 X338.414 Y339.049 E.04953
            Buffered code: G1 X338.163 Y339.93 E.06047
            Buffered code: G1 X337.864 Y340.77 E.05791
            Buffered code: G1 X337.827 Y340.861 E.00612
            Buffered codes: 864 bytes total
            Code buffer space: 3200
            Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz, TfrRdy pin glitches: 0
            Full transfers per second: 38.34, max time between full transfers: 64.4ms, max pin wait times: 34.9ms/3.8ms
            Codes per second: 12.04
            Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 8176/1140
            

            1LC

            Diagnostics for board 121:
            Duet TOOL1LC rev 1.1 or later firmware version 3.5.2 (2024-06-10 13:24:04)
            Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.8 (2023-07-25)
            All averaging filters OK
            Never used RAM 3832, free system stack 71 words
            Tasks: Move(3,nWait 7,0.2%,90) HEAT(2,nWait 6,0.1%,126) CanAsync(5,nWait 4,0.0%,52) CanRecv(3,nWait 1,0.1%,70) CanClock(5,nWait 1,0.0%,58) ACCEL(3,nWait 6,0.0%,52) TMC(2,nWait 6,3.7%,52) MAIN(1,running,91.3%,412) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,26) AIN(2,delaying,4.5%,112), total 100.0%
            Owned mutexes:
            Last reset 00:18:59 ago, cause: power up
            Last software reset data not available
            Driver 0: pos 0, 80.0 steps/mm, ok, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 55, reads 21490, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0, steps req 0 done 660061
            Moves scheduled 15214, completed 15210, in progress 1, hiccups 0, segs 26, step errors 0, maxLate 0 maxPrep 210, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0, ebfmin 0.00 max 1.00
            Peak sync jitter 1/6, peak Rx sync delay 245, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
            VIN voltage: min 11.9, current 24.6, max 24.6
            MCU temperature: min 36.0C, current 38.5C, max 38.8C
            Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 137 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
            CAN messages queued 6671, send timeouts 0, received 20102, lost 0, errs 0, boc 0, free buffers 18, min 17, error reg 0
            dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 369, adv 36213/74673
            Accelerometer: LIS3DH, status: 00
            I2C bus errors 0, naks 0, contentions 0, other errors 0
            

            Zprobe

            M122 B120
            Diagnostics for board 120:
            Duet SZP firmware version 3.5.2 (2024-06-10 13:23:26)
            Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.10 (2023-11-16)
            All averaging filters OK
            Never used RAM 14188, free system stack 110 words
            Tasks: HEAT(2,nWait 6,0.1%,132) CanAsync(5,nWait 4,0.0%,54) CanRecv(3,nWait 1,0.0%,70) CanClock(5,nWait 1,0.0%,58) ACCEL(3,nWait 6,0.0%,52) MAIN(1,running,64.7%,430) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,26) AIN(2,nWait 4,35.1%,72), total 100.0%
            Owned mutexes: I2C(AIN)
            Last reset 00:19:13 ago, cause: power up
            Last software reset at 2024-03-12 06:08, reason: StackOverflow, available RAM 14136, slot 0
            Software reset code 0x0100 ICSR 0x0041a00e SP 0x20007f34 Task ACCE Freestk 5138 ok
            Stack: 20002e70 20002ea4 00014913 200029a4 20002ac0 20002998 000139f1 20002ac0 fffffffd 0000002a 00000000 20007f8c 00000000 20007f8c 00014677 00000000 200010a4 20001028 00013eb7 20001028 200010a4 00000032 454c4449 00019000 00012683 200011c0 200011c0
            Peak sync jitter 1/6, peak Rx sync delay 216, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
            VIN voltage: min 4.4, current 5.0, max 5.0
            MCU temperature: min 27.5C, current 30.1C, max 30.2C
            Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 165 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
            CAN messages queued 5518, send timeouts 0, received 11275, lost 0, errs 0, boc 0, free buffers 18, min 18, error reg 0
            Accelerometer: LIS2DW, status: 00
            Inductive sensor: raw value 39288477, frequency 3.66MHz, current setting 13, ok
            I2C bus errors 0, naks 3, contentions 0, other errors 0
            

            any help would be greatly appreciated.

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            • charliedrumsundefined
              charliedrums @charliedrums
              last edited by

              Ok so I narrowed down the tool Expansion board 121 reconnected error to the harness connection between the scanning z probe and the tool board harness. I mystically did not plug it in all the way. Having plugged it in correctly I started a new test print with the new 1LC board but still I’m having the same over extrusion problem at random times. Sometimes is at the start of the print, sometimes is at layer 5, sometimes its 3+ hours into the print.

              So I decided to go back to the basics I disconnected the scanning z probe and the filament sensor and updated the config.g file to comment out the scanning z probe and the filament sensor. So the only things that are plugged in to the 1LC are the extruder & cooling fan, the extruder heater, thermistor, motor, vin power and the can connection. With this configuration I started a test print to see if I keep getting the over extrusion issue. Hopefully I have a successful print on this one I really don’t want to ditch duet for Klipper and a Chinese board.
              photo_2024-07-01_22-51-42.jpg

              Here are my diagnostics:
              MB6HC

              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.5.2 (2024-06-11 17:13:58) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 (SBC mode)
              Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TN-6JTD0-3SJ6S-1V82V
              Used output buffers: 11 of 40 (29 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 155360
              Dynamic ram: 89888 of which 5072 recycled
              Never used RAM 92192, free system stack 136 words
              Tasks: SBC(2,rWait:,0.9%,821) HEAT(3,nWait 6,0.0%,323) Move(4,nWait 6,1.9%,211) CanReceiv(6,nWait 1,0.0%,794) CanSender(5,nWait 7,0.0%,327) CanClock(7,delaying,0.0%,348) TMC(4,nWait 6,9.7%,53) MAIN(2,running,87.1%,101) IDLE(0,ready,0.3%,29), total 100.0%
              Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:19:02 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2024-07-01 22:29, reason: User, Gcodes spinning, available RAM 95744, slot 0
              Software reset code 0x6003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0043c000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task SBC Freestk 0 n/a
              Error status: 0x00
              Aux0 errors 0,0,0
              MCU temperature: min 37.2, current 42.1, max 42.2
              Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              12V rail voltage: min 12.0, current 12.1, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0
              Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/48/48, gc cycles 0
              Events: 1 queued, 1 completed
              Driver 0: ok, SG min 0, mspos 366, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Driver 1: ok, SG min 0, mspos 1010, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Driver 2: ok, SG min 0, mspos 277, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Driver 3: ok, SG min 0, mspos 59, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Driver 4: ok, SG min 0, mspos 859, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Driver 5: ok, SG min 0, mspos 229, reads 41818, writes 17 timeouts 0
              Date/time: 2024-07-01 22:48:14
              Slowest loop: 1369.34ms; fastest: 0.05ms
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 20
              SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              DMs created 125, segments created 26, maxWait 99861ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, height map offset 0.000, max steps late 0, min interval 0, bad calcs 0, ebfmin 0.00, ebfmax 0.00
              next step interrupt due in 383 ticks, disabled
              Moves shaped first try 1182, on retry 654, too short 544, wrong shape 10891, maybepossible 117
              === DDARing 0 ===
              Scheduled moves 15092, completed 15032, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state 3
              === DDARing 1 ===
              Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
              Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
              Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              === GCodes ===
              Movement locks held by null, null
              HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File* is doing "G1 X329.549988 Y341.337006 E0.083270" in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue* is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              SBC is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              File2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Q0 segments left 1, axes/extruders owned 0x80000007
              Code queue 0 is empty
              Q1 segments left 0, axes/extruders owned 0x0000000
              Code queue 1 is empty
              === CAN ===
              Messages queued 24111, received 22784, lost 0, errs 1, boc 0
              Longest wait 2ms for reply type 6026, peak Tx sync delay 323, free buffers 50 (min 49), ts 5711/5710/0
              Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
              === SBC interface ===
              Transfer state: 5, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
              RX/TX seq numbers: 45007/45007
              SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
              State: 5, disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0 total, 0 by SBC, IAP RAM available 0x24cfc
              Buffer RX/TX: 3264/752-4080, open files: 0
              === Duet Control Server ===
              Duet Control Server version 3.5.2 (2024-06-12 07:12:47, 64-bit)
              HTTP+Executed:
              > Executing M122
              File 0:/gcodes/Guiro 12in_3.4.6Test_0.6n_0.3mm_PLA_EXOCUBE_8h39m.gcode is selected, processing
              HTTP:
              >> Doing macro 0:/macros/Diagnostics, started by M98 P"0:/macros/Diagnostics"
              File:
              Buffered code: G1 X329.55 Y341.337 E.08327
              Buffered code: G1 X328.919 Y341.965 E.06177
              Buffered code: G1 X328.509 Y342.594 E.0521
              Buffered code: G1 X328.222 Y343.222 E.04791
              Buffered code: G1 X328.016 Y343.85 E.04586
              Buffered code: G1 X327.906 Y344.479 E.04431
              Buffered code: G1 X327.95 Y344.793 E.022
              Buffered code: G1 X328.205 Y345.107 E.02807
              Buffered code: G1 X329.428 Y345.735 E.0954
              Buffered code: G1 X330.45 Y346.364 E.08327
              Buffered code: G1 X330.63 Y346.543 E.01761
              Buffered code: G1 X331.455 Y346.422 E.05786
              Buffered code: G1 X331.908 Y346.306 E.03245
              Buffered code: G1 X332.359 Y346.157 E.03296
              Buffered code: G1 X333.06 Y345.853 E.05302
              Buffered code: G1 X333.762 Y345.466 E.05562
              Buffered code: G1 X334.184 Y345.184 E.03522
              Buffered code: G1 X334.598 Y344.867 E.03618
              Buffered code: G1 X335.255 Y344.267 E.06174
              Buffered code: G1 X334.577 Y343.85 E.05523
              Buffered code: G1 X333.945 Y343.222 E.06182
              Buffered code: G1 X333.536 Y342.594 E.052
              Buffered code: G1 X333.249 Y341.965 E.04797
              Buffered code: G1 X333.042 Y341.337 E.04588
              Buffered code: G1 X332.933 Y340.708 E.0443
              Buffered code: G1 X332.976 Y340.394 E.02199
              Buffered code: G1 X333.232 Y340.08 E.02811
              Buffered code: G1 X334.455 Y339.452 E.0954
              Buffered code: G1 X335.476 Y338.823 E.08321
              Buffered code: G1 X336.108 Y338.195 E.06182
              Buffered code: G1 X336.518 Y337.567 E.05204
              Buffered code: G1 X336.805 Y336.938 E.04797
              Buffered codes: 1536 bytes total
              Code buffer space: 2512
              Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz, TfrRdy pin glitches: 0
              Full transfers per second: 39.60, max time between full transfers: 50.4ms, max pin wait times: 35.8ms/5.4ms
              Codes per second: 13.53
              Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4436/1124
              

              1LC

              	Diagnostics for board 121:
              Duet TOOL1LC rev 1.1 or later firmware version 3.5.2 (2024-06-10 13:24:04)
              Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.8 (2023-07-25)
              All averaging filters OK
              Never used RAM 3372, free system stack 71 words
              Tasks: Move(3,nWait 7,0.2%,90) HEAT(2,nWait 6,0.3%,98) CanAsync(5,nWait 4,0.0%,52) CanRecv(3,nWait 1,0.1%,70) CanClock(5,nWait 1,0.0%,58) ACCEL(3,nWait 6,0.0%,52) TMC(2,nWait 6,3.7%,52) MAIN(1,running,90.8%,314) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,26) AIN(2,delaying,4.8%,112), total 100.0%
              Owned mutexes:
              Last reset 00:19:06 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset data not available
              Driver 0: pos 0, 405.0 steps/mm, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 26, reads 48051, writes 13, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0, steps req 0 done 850185
              Moves scheduled 13946, completed 13943, in progress 1, hiccups 27, segs 26, step errors 0, maxLate 0 maxPrep 335, maxOverdue 102, maxInc 37, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0, ebfmin 0.00 max 1.00
              Peak sync jitter 0/5, peak Rx sync delay 228, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
              VIN voltage: min 19.7, current 23.7, max 24.6
              MCU temperature: min 34.6C, current 45.0C, max 46.0C
              Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 205 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
              CAN messages queued 22882, send timeouts 0, received 24273, lost 0, errs 0, boc 0, free buffers 18, min 18, error reg 0
              dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 403, adv 36312/74663
              Accelerometer: LIS3DH, status: 00
              I2C bus errors 0, naks 3, contentions 0, other errors 0
              
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              • charliedrumsundefined
                charliedrums
                last edited by

                Ok this time it was 1h 1m 28s when the over extrusion started. Any Ideas of what I could try next? Would making a new RJ11 cable from the tool distribution board help? Or re cabling the whole thing? At this point I’ll try anything.

                Diagnostics:
                MB6HC

                === Diagnostics ===
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.5.2 (2024-06-11 17:13:58) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 (SBC mode)
                Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TN-6JTD0-3SJ6S-1V82V
                Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (29 max)
                === RTOS ===
                Static ram: 155360
                Dynamic ram: 89912 of which 5048 recycled
                Never used RAM 92192, free system stack 136 words
                Tasks: SBC(2,nWait 7,0.9%,821) HEAT(3,nWait 6,0.0%,323) Move(4,nWait 6,2.5%,211) CanReceiv(6,nWait 1,0.0%,794) CanSender(5,nWait 7,0.0%,327) CanClock(7,delaying,0.0%,346) TMC(4,nWait 6,9.7%,53) MAIN(2,running,86.7%,101) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,29), total 100.0%
                Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
                === Platform ===
                Last reset 01:00:13 ago, cause: software
                Last software reset at 2024-07-01 22:29, reason: User, Gcodes spinning, available RAM 95744, slot 0
                Software reset code 0x6003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0043c000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task SBC Freestk 0 n/a
                Error status: 0x00
                Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                MCU temperature: min 41.9, current 44.6, max 44.7
                Supply voltage: min 23.7, current 23.9, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                12V rail voltage: min 12.0, current 12.1, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0
                Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/48/48, gc cycles 0
                Events: 1 queued, 1 completed
                Driver 0: ok, SG min 0, mspos 444, reads 10183, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Driver 1: ok, SG min 0, mspos 867, reads 10184, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Driver 2: ok, SG min 0, mspos 508, reads 10184, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Driver 3: ok, SG min 0, mspos 852, reads 10184, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Driver 4: ok, SG min 0, mspos 628, reads 10184, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Driver 5: ok, SG min 0, mspos 460, reads 10184, writes 0 timeouts 0
                Date/time: 2024-07-01 23:29:26
                Slowest loop: 31.88ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                === Storage ===
                Free file entries: 20
                SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
                SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                === Move ===
                DMs created 125, segments created 26, maxWait 991ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, height map offset 0.000, max steps late 0, min interval 0, bad calcs 0, ebfmin 0.00, ebfmax 0.00
                next step interrupt due in 166 ticks, disabled
                Moves shaped first try 2755, on retry 1709, too short 1471, wrong shape 35430, maybepossible 500
                === DDARing 0 ===
                Scheduled moves 61679, completed 61619, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state 3
                === DDARing 1 ===
                Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                === Heat ===
                Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
                Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.1
                Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                === GCodes ===
                Movement locks held by null, null
                HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro
                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                File* is doing "G1 X337.981995 Y325.506012 E0.063910" in state(s) 0
                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                Queue* is idle in state(s) 0
                LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                File2 is idle in state(s) 0
                Queue2 is idle in state(s) 0
                Q0 segments left 1, axes/extruders owned 0x80000007
                Code queue 0 is empty
                Q1 segments left 0, axes/extruders owned 0x0000000
                Code queue 1 is empty
                === CAN ===
                Messages queued 65895, received 49465, lost 0, errs 0, boc 0
                Longest wait 6ms for reply type 6024, peak Tx sync delay 254, free buffers 50 (min 48), ts 12359/12359/0
                Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
                === SBC interface ===
                Transfer state: 5, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
                RX/TX seq numbers: 11409/11409
                SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                State: 5, disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0 total, 0 by SBC, IAP RAM available 0x24cfc
                Buffer RX/TX: 1920/3424-0, open files: 0
                === Duet Control Server ===
                Duet Control Server version 3.5.2 (2024-06-12 07:12:47, 64-bit)
                HTTP+Executed:
                > Executing M122
                File 0:/gcodes/Guiro 12in_3.4.6Test_0.6n_0.3mm_PLA_EXOCUBE_8h39m.gcode is selected, processing
                HTTP:
                >> Doing macro 0:/macros/Diagnostics, started by M98 P"0:/macros/Diagnostics"
                File:
                Buffered code: G1 X337.982 Y325.506 E.06391
                Buffered code: G1 X338.172 Y326.122 E.04473
                Buffered code: G1 X338.373 Y326.988 E.06169
                Buffered code: G1 X338.475 Y327.605 E.04339
                Buffered code: G1 X338.532 Y328.208 E.04203
                Buffered code: G1 X338.576 Y329.165 E.06648
                Buffered code: G1 X338.54 Y329.812 E.04496
                Buffered code: G1 X338.477 Y330.421 E.04248
                Buffered code: G1 X338.404 Y330.875 E.03191
                Buffered code: G1 X338.17 Y331.76 E.06352
                Buffered code: G1 X337.971 Y332.224 E.03503
                Buffered code: G1 X337.819 Y332.486 E.02102
                Buffered code: G1 X337.248 Y333.118 E.0591
                Buffered code: G1 X336.888 Y333.48 E.03543
                Buffered code: G1 X336.109 Y334.03 E.06617
                Buffered code: G1 X335.767 Y334.23 E.02749
                Buffered code: G1 X335.59 Y333.679 F15000
                Buffered code: G1 F1500
                Buffered code: G1 X334.92 Y333.853 E.04803
                Buffered code: G1 X334.282 Y333.984 E.04519
                Buffered code: G1 X333.634 Y334.091 E.04557
                Buffered code: G1 X332.588 Y334.206 E.07302
                Buffered code: G1 X331.473 Y334.279 E.07753
                Buffered code: G1 X328.705 Y334.286 E.19207
                Buffered code: G1 X327.414 Y334.206 E.08975
                Buffered code: G1 X326.38 Y334.093 E.07218
                Buffered code: G1 X325.719 Y333.984 E.04649
                Buffered code: G1 X324.531 Y333.728 E.08433
                Buffered code: G1 X324.202 Y333.548 E.02602
                Buffered code: G1 X323.572 Y333.103 E.05352
                Buffered code: G1 X322.915 Y332.457 E.06394
                Buffered codes: 1472 bytes total
                Code buffer space: 1920
                Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz, TfrRdy pin glitches: 0
                Full transfers per second: 39.44, max time between full transfers: 54.9ms, max pin wait times: 54.5ms/4.6ms
                Codes per second: 19.17
                Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4436/1124
                

                1LC

                Diagnostics for board 121:
                Duet TOOL1LC rev 1.1 or later firmware version 3.5.2 (2024-06-10 13:24:04)
                Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.8 (2023-07-25)
                All averaging filters OK
                Never used RAM 3372, free system stack 71 words
                Tasks: Move(3,nWait 7,0.3%,88) HEAT(2,nWait 6,0.3%,90) CanAsync(5,nWait 4,0.0%,52) CanRecv(3,nWait 1,0.1%,70) CanClock(5,nWait 1,0.0%,58) ACCEL(3,nWait 6,0.0%,52) TMC(2,nWait 6,3.7%,52) MAIN(1,running,90.7%,314) IDLE(0,ready,0.0%,26) AIN(2,delaying,4.9%,112), total 100.0%
                Owned mutexes:
                Last reset 01:00:15 ago, cause: software
                Last software reset data not available
                Driver 0: pos 0, 405.0 steps/mm, ok, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 2, ifcnt 168, reads 27122, writes 16826, timeouts 4, DMA errors 0, CC errors 16827, failedOp 0x71, steps req 0 done 2205650
                Moves scheduled 57511, completed 57507, in progress 1, hiccups 80, segs 26, step errors 0, maxLate 0 maxPrep 354, maxOverdue 106, maxInc 52, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0, ebfmin 0.00 max 1.00
                Peak sync jitter 0/6, peak Rx sync delay 252, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
                VIN voltage: min 11.6, current 24.2, max 24.5
                MCU temperature: min 34.6C, current 45.2C, max 46.0C
                Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 143 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
                CAN messages queued 49415, send timeouts 0, received 65795, lost 0, errs 0, boc 0, free buffers 18, min 18, error reg 0
                dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 398, adv 36262/74666
                Accelerometer: LIS3DH, status: 00
                I2C bus errors 0, naks 0, contentions 0, other errors 0
                
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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @charliedrums
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                  @charliedrums Looking at this logically, any print move looks like this. G1 Xnn Ynn Enn. Which means move a certain distance in X and/or Y while extruding a certain amount of filament. What you are saying is that at random times, when printing a gcode that you have printed many times before, that Enn becomes something greater. I.e, the fimant moving through the extruder randomly moves further or faster than it should do. There are many reasons why it might move less (partial blockage, temperature too low, motor or wring issue, missed steps, etc), but none that I can think of that would make the filament move further than it should. So the only logical conclusion is that something else is happening which gives the appearance of over extrusion when in fact it isn't. My best guess, as I've stated before, is that your Z axis isn't moving the full layer height.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • charliedrumsundefined
                    charliedrums @deckingman
                    last edited by

                    @deckingman @deckingman

                    I would have guessed the same but I have checked all 4 Z motors and their harnesses. Here is what leads me to determine it is over extrusion. First once the issue begins, I remove the print from under the extruder and let it print in air for a while and visibly one can tell the more amount of plastic is being forces through the nozzle.

                    Second, I am using the Orthus Filament Monitor. The orthus has a light that flashes intermittently when filament is running through it. The faster the blink of the light the faster the filament if passing through the sensor, when the problem begins the light flashes faster as in filament is passing faster trough the sensor/extruder. I can move the printer to the max height(365mm) and home without any problems.

                    I’m going one thing at a time right now I eliminated the z scanning probe and the filament sensor. Still happening. This time around I re did the harness that powers the tool distribution board (two cables 24v Vin ground) and am currently running the print to see if the problem continues after this, I’ll re do the RJ11 cable. Then continue from there.

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @charliedrums
                      last edited by

                      @charliedrums If you are certain that it is genuine over extrusion after some seemingly random period of time, then the only explanation I can think of is that somehow, something is changing the G1 Xnn Ynn Enn commands that exist in the gcode file to something like G1 Xnn Ynn E(some other value that is always higher). I note that you are using a SBC. Is there any chance that you could run stand alone mode and print directly form an SD card?

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @charliedrums
                        last edited by

                        @charliedrums One other suggestion - try a print without input shaping. I can't offhand think why it should make a difference but who knows?

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • charliedrumsundefined
                          charliedrums @deckingman
                          last edited by

                          @deckingman
                          Yes, I can I don’t see why not. The only reason I have SBC is so I could get WIFI. Looking through the documentation I see that I can connect to the board directly with an ethernet cable. Next thing Ill do is that go Direct an eliminate the SBC and see. Thanks for the idea.

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                          • OwenDundefined
                            OwenD @charliedrums
                            last edited by OwenD

                            @charliedrums said in Random overextrusion after 3+hours of printing FW 3.5.2:

                            @OwenD I have printed the gcode before. Probably like 30 t50 times and it has always worked. Still gave it a look but found nothing out of the ordinary.

                            Good that you're keeping an open mind.
                            Having printed the code before may not prove anything.
                            For example in my case the Gcode extrusion values were far above the capabilities of the extruder, but I wasn't getting skipped steps because my maximum extruder speed values were limiting it to achievable amounts (albeit way over extruded).
                            If in the interim you had for example increased your max extruder speeds then a problem that wasn't obvious before may now appear.
                            Loading the code into Prusa Slicer and viewing it by volumetric flow rate would show up any odd areas most likely a lot more than just scanning the code by eye.

                            Have you tried swapping the drivers around that the extruder is on?
                            That should rule out a hardware fault on the board at least.

                            EDIT: Just saw that you're using a tool board and have swapped it.

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                            • OwenDundefined
                              OwenD
                              last edited by

                              Just noticed a similar post also using a toolboard
                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/35869/overextrusion-out-of-nowhere
                              One for @DC42 I think

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                              • gloomyandyundefined
                                gloomyandy @charliedrums
                                last edited by

                                @charliedrums One other thing to try, I think you said that once it gets into this "over extrusion mode" then it stays in it even when starting a new print? If that is the case can you try checking the extruder calibration when in this state see: https://docs.duet3d.com/en/How_to_guides/Calibration#h-3-calibrating-extruder-e-steps-per-mm and then do a reboot and perform the same task again and see if there is any difference.

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                                • charliedrumsundefined
                                  charliedrums
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                                  After many weeks of testing, I figured out the problem. I started re-wiring every cable to eliminate any problem with the harnesses. Once I got to the power from the Mainboard 6HC to the tool distribution board. I measured the power from this cable with a multimeter and everything was reading normal. For some reason once I rewired this harness everything seems to be working now.

                                  I’ve done dozens of 20–50-hour prints with no problem so far. Updating this post in case someone is having the same issue. Check the power from the main board to the tool distribution board.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @charliedrums
                                    last edited by

                                    @charliedrums I'm glad you solved it! Thanks for the update.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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