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    Help please - Strange and sudden axis fault on Kossel XL

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    • rjenkinsgbundefined
      rjenkinsgb
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      Hi,
      My Kossel XL has been working fine for the last couple of years.
      (Duet 3 MB6HC; firmware 3.4.0).

      I've not used it for a couple of months (too busy with work).

      I just tried to print something and found that one axis is moving around 10% further than the other two - when it went to probe the bed centre, it was a long way off to the side.

      Homing then jogging Z- shows the same effect - the front left axis (as I have it positioned) moves proportionally too far as it travels down, and the same jogging back up - so all three level gradually level out again as it gets back to the top!

      I've checked the config file is not corrupt; all three axis parameters are identical.
      Also tried power off and let it restart without attempting to print, no difference.

      The motor pulleys and belts are all fine, no slipping.

      Any ideas?

      Thanks,
      Robert.

      Robert J.

      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @rjenkinsgb
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        @rjenkinsgb are you by any chance using steel-cored belts?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • rjenkinsgbundefined
          rjenkinsgb @dc42
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          @dc42 No, just generic fibre reinforced ones.

          Robert J.

          Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @rjenkinsgb
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            @rjenkinsgb the reason I asked is that users have experienced similar symptoms when using steel-cored belts, because the belts are not meant to run over such small pulleys and the cores break. I am wondering whether something similar may have happened to the belt on that motor. Also check that the pulley grub screw is still tight.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • rjenkinsgbundefined
              rjenkinsgb @dc42
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              @dc42 Problem solved, thank you!

              I'd already checked for any slip or backlash by holding the belt while jogging small amounts, but was going to double-check the grub screws to be certain.
              They need a torch to see them clearly.

              They are OK - but I was not expecting the pulley to have changed size!
              A small fragment of fibre reinforced tape from somewhere was stuck on it, so the belt was moving slightly further for each motor rotation.

              IMG_4393.jpg

              Robert J.

              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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