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    • Huguesundefined
      Hugues
      last edited by

      Hi,
      A small update about high speed print, i get this statue in 4h30, 220mm height at 0.12 mm layer height.
      I setup the speed near 200 mm/s +-20 % . and 10 % infill, 3 loop.

      S3D announced 2h40, quicker than the reality (it surely forget retraction) but the duet handle quite well this speed but on really sharp curve there is some artifacts.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by

        Hi Cubexupgrade

        can you embed a larger version please!

        www.duet3d.com

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          @cubexupgrade:

          I never used firmware retract but it can be a good solution to manage this slider. Is it better to use it vs slicer ? And is it necessary to use it with pressure advance control M572 ?

          The main reason I added firmware retraction is to handle mixing hot ends such as the Diamond. With these, all the filaments need to be retracted the same amount, regardless of the current mixing ratio. Firmware retraction in RRF does that.

          Use of pressure advance is entirely separate. However, if you use a lot of pressure advance then you should reduce retraction, because at high printing speeds pressure advance will already do some retraction at the end of an extruding move that is followed by a non-extruding move.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • Huguesundefined
            Hugues
            last edited by

            Sorry i'm little newbie with this kind of code…

            I will post more picture, the back is clean but the front less cause it have lot of curve.

            I will do more print of this with less mesh to have a reference.

            Thanks DC42 for your explanation. I will do some test.

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            • Huguesundefined
              Hugues
              last edited by

              Some better pictures :

              https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3QhjlM2HLWsa0RZbXNnS29tMTA

              I didn't setup a minimum layer time for cooling.

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              • Aussiephilundefined
                Aussiephil
                last edited by

                Sorry to butt in on the end of this thread but having just rebuilt my delta to fix an issue (unsuccesfully by the look of it) before swapping over to the DuetWiFi, from the 0.8.5 board, I've got a print running and decided to check for underuns as I to use S3D and have 0.9 steppers.
                I got MaxReps: 5, StepErrors: 0. Underruns: 229 over about a 5 minute window.
                Sliced with 3.02 of S3D at only 90mm/s.
                Only noticed this as I wanted to baseline things before swapping
                Copy of the gcode file zipped in dropbox https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28032744/chatimage/caselid.zip if that helps.

                Cheers
                Phil

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                • RCarlyleundefined
                  RCarlyle
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                  S3D 3.0.2 is before the "reduce small segments" fix, you should probably update to 3.1. (I'm still running 3.0.2 and not having any big issues since David patched the motion planner queue, but it depends a lot on the STL poly count.)

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                  • Aussiephilundefined
                    Aussiephil
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                    @RCarlyle:

                    S3D 3.0.2 is before the "reduce small segments" fix, you should probably update to 3.1. (I'm still running 3.0.2 and not having any big issues since David patched the motion planner queue, but it depends a lot on the STL poly count.)

                    Hi RC,
                    I've been using 3.1 since it was released, went back to 3.0.2 just to back track changes made since this "sloop error" arrived, thought i had found it but appears not. The machine has been pulled apart and rebuilt with careful attention to squareness and spacing. The small 30mm test cubes still lean the same as prior to the rebuild which points to something else.
                    Checking m122 after the print finished (about 2hrs) i had this…
                    MaxReps: 6, StepErrors: 0. Underruns: 5504

                    Guess I'll bite the bullet today and drop the Duet WiFi in place with the latest firmware

                    Cheers
                    Phil

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      @Aussiephil:

                      @RCarlyle:

                      S3D 3.0.2 is before the "reduce small segments" fix, you should probably update to 3.1. (I'm still running 3.0.2 and not having any big issues since David patched the motion planner queue, but it depends a lot on the STL poly count.)

                      Hi RC,
                      I've been using 3.1 since it was released, went back to 3.0.2 just to back track changes made since this "sloop error" arrived, thought i had found it but appears not. The machine has been pulled apart and rebuilt with careful attention to squareness and spacing. The small 30mm test cubes still lean the same as prior to the rebuild which points to something else.
                      Checking m122 after the print finished (about 2hrs) i had this…
                      MaxReps: 6, StepErrors: 0. Underruns: 5504

                      Guess I'll bite the bullet today and drop the Duet WiFi in place with the latest firmware

                      If you haven't started that yet, you might like to try the 1.15 beta 3 release for the wired Duet that I just put on github.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Aussiephilundefined
                        Aussiephil
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                        @dc42:

                        If you haven't started that yet, you might like to try the 1.15 beta 3 release for the wired Duet that I just put on github.

                        sorry David, was sort of warmish today so got on with it, going to update the other thread with some details.

                        Cheers

                        Cheers
                        Phil

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