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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @wilriker
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      @wilriker You can also modify the amount that infill crosses over into the walls.

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      • wilrikerundefined
        wilriker @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux I know but that already is as low as (Cura's default of) 10%. Going lower doesn't make sense IMHO, does it?

        Here are the results of printing walls before infill. The backside is totally smooth now. The front side still some infill is visible and it can be felt when sliding a finger across the surface. To my surprise it is rougher though than previous ones.

        front side
        Front side. Previous result on the left, today's Benchy on the right.

        back side
        Back side. Again old Benchy to the left, new one on the right.

        Manuel
        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
        My Tool Collection

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          How many walls are you using? Adding another wall would be my suggestion. With a 0.4 nozzle I usually use 3.

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          • wilrikerundefined
            wilriker @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux With most of the settings I go by Cura's defaults. In case of perimeter count it is 2. I only increase this for parts that need additional strengths e.g. to directly tap screws into the plastic.
            I still have a setting to test called "Connect infill lines". It basically is an additional inner perimeter. I guess this will solve the issue finally.

            Manuel
            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
            My Tool Collection

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @wilriker
              last edited by

              @wilriker Connect infill lines isn't quite the same as an extra full perimeter. It does the same thing with infill that slic3r does by default. A full perimeter is a continuous lines from start to finish, connected infill lines are sporadic.

              I use 25% for infill overlap and don't get such pronounced infill pattern. What is your infill wipe distance?

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              • wilrikerundefined
                wilriker @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux Again the default of 0.1125mm.

                Manuel
                Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                My Tool Collection

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by Phaedrux

                  2 perimeters is rather thin, especially on curved surfaces like the hull. I'd bet that adding a third perimeter will take care of it.

                  In my opinion the Cura defaults are some of the worst defaults. They are tuned for an ultimaker and don't always translate well to other styles of printer. And so many of the useful settings are hidden by default. That's not to say I dislike Cura, but it definitely takes a lot more fiddling.

                  In your case, with an I3 style printer, I think you'd probably get really excellent results using Slic3r PE and one of the prusa profiles for the MK2.

                  https://github.com/prusa3d/Slic3r-settings/tree/master/old/Slic3r settings MK2S MK2MM and MK3

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                  • OBELIKSundefined
                    OBELIKS
                    last edited by

                    Just to test, try this one:0_1536176181631_3DBenchy_0.2mm_PLA_MK2S.gcode

                    P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                    Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                    • wilrikerundefined
                      wilriker @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux I am looking into other slicers every once in awhile but at least until now always returned to Cura. Maybe because it was what I started with.

                      I will try to slice and print a Benchy also with Slic3r and maybe also ideaMaker. Will see. I will just create an army of Benchies I can use to conquer the world. 😁

                      Manuel
                      Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                      with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                      My Tool Collection

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                      • wilrikerundefined
                        wilriker @OBELIKS
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                        @obeliks Is it sliced with (0, 0) at bed center?

                        Manuel
                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                        My Tool Collection

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                        • OBELIKSundefined
                          OBELIKS
                          last edited by

                          You have it set at center now?
                          It's at 0,0

                          P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                          Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                          • wilrikerundefined
                            wilriker @OBELIKS
                            last edited by wilriker

                            @obeliks Yes, I changed it with PA tuning. 😉

                            I looked into the GCODE with an editor and a lot of movements are outside my printable area. So I guess this was sliced with (0, 0) at front left.

                            Also I doubt that my motors could handle the speeds given in there. 144mm/s is not possible - while proof-reading this sentence I just thought "actually I never tried but only used EMF Calculator values to set the limits". Usually I wouldn't care as it is capped by my settings but these are overwritten at the start of the file. 😂
                            I won't print this before Friday anyway as tomorrow is something else already on the list. So enough time to setup Slic3r and slice it myself.

                            Also it does not use FW retract and the retractions in there are way too short for my MK8.

                            Manuel
                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                            My Tool Collection

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                            • OBELIKSundefined
                              OBELIKS
                              last edited by

                              I recommend you start with MK2 profile and work from that.
                              Even if you just change the dimensions of print volume and remove the acceleration and other things it should work.

                              P3Steel Toolson mk2 - Duet 2 WiFi --> RatRig V-Core with Duet WiFi 1.03
                              Original Prusa i3 MK3S

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                              • wilrikerundefined
                                wilriker @OBELIKS
                                last edited by

                                @obeliks Thanks. Currently fighting through all of the options. 🙂 ⚔

                                Manuel
                                Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                My Tool Collection

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                                • wilrikerundefined
                                  wilriker
                                  last edited by wilriker

                                  OK, some interesting discoveries with Slic3r PE so far.

                                  1. I started with MK2 profile but ditched it and started with a completely fresh profile based on a custom printer. Also I left nearly all of the settings at their defaults as this will compare better to how I use Cura
                                  2. The Gcode file for the Benchy is considerably smaller, i.e. nearly 40% smaller
                                  3. It uses about 70cm more filament for the Benchy than Cura - this is probably due to larger line width and 3 perimeters
                                  4. With all speeds set to default (except travel speed that I reduced to match my printers current set limit) it will take 1:46h compared to 1:28h when sliced with Cura (both values taken from Duet simulation result)
                                  5. Slic3r said it would take 1:25h but I have not found where to set maximum speeds for axes, accelerations and jerk values. It can be entered in the advanced acceleration control fields if they are enabled by using a Prusa profile but not for custom profiles. But I don't want it to control the acceleration but only take it into account when calculating print time. Before the "Printer Settings" plugin existed these values had to be entered in configuration files with an external editor. Is there something similar for Slic3r possible? Just found it right after posting here.
                                  6. Modifier meshes are a bit more hidden than in Cura but have the nice feature of adding generic shapes (cubes, cylinders, etc.) where I had to create those in advance for Cura
                                  7. I like that Slic3r has Gyroid infill
                                  8. I don't like the UI - it looks like from the 90s 😂

                                  Manuel
                                  Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                  with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                  My Tool Collection

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                                  • whosrdaddyundefined
                                    whosrdaddy
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                                    @wilriker said in My custom Cartesian:

                                    I don't like the UI - it looks like from the 90s

                                    But at least it's fast! 😸 😸

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                                    • wilrikerundefined
                                      wilriker @whosrdaddy
                                      last edited by

                                      @whosrdaddy That's right.

                                      OK, now I found where to set the values for speed, accel, jerk etc. but the default values contain two values and I cannot find which one stands for what. Any input on this, anyone?

                                      Manuel
                                      Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                      with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                      My Tool Collection

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                                      • whosrdaddyundefined
                                        whosrdaddy
                                        last edited by

                                        what do you mean with 2 values?

                                        I have these for my i3 clone:

                                        alt text

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                                        • deckingmanundefined
                                          deckingman @wilriker
                                          last edited by

                                          @wilriker said in My custom Cartesian:

                                          @whosrdaddy That's right.

                                          OK, now I found where to set the values for speed, accel, jerk etc. but the default values contain two values and I cannot find which one stands for what. Any input on this, anyone?

                                          What @whosrdaddy said. Also, if you let the mouse hover one of the input boxes, you'll get a little pop-up that explains what it does.

                                          Ian
                                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                          • wilrikerundefined
                                            wilriker @whosrdaddy
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                                            @whosrdaddy I mean the <printer profile name>.ini file where all the settings are persisted. There will be lines

                                            machine_max_acceleration_e = 10000,5000
                                            machine_max_acceleration_extruding = 1500,1250
                                            machine_max_acceleration_retracting = 1500,1250
                                            machine_max_acceleration_x = 9000,1000
                                            machine_max_acceleration_y = 9000,1000
                                            machine_max_acceleration_z = 500,200
                                            machine_max_feedrate_e = 120,120
                                            machine_max_feedrate_x = 500,200
                                            machine_max_feedrate_y = 500,200
                                            machine_max_feedrate_z = 12,12
                                            machine_max_jerk_e = 2.5,2.5
                                            machine_max_jerk_x = 10,10
                                            machine_max_jerk_y = 10,10
                                            machine_max_jerk_z = 0.2,0.4
                                            machine_min_extruding_rate = 0,0
                                            machine_min_travel_rate = 0,0
                                            

                                            where every property has two values. After downloading and searching the source code I found out that the second value is for "silent mode printing".

                                            Manuel
                                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                            My Tool Collection

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