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    Mysta
    last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 04:42

    Running Duet Wifi + Smart Effector. Was using berd air and swapped to a fan. I bought 5 brushless fans from digikey(24v). Put one on hot end cooling, worked, put one on the print cooling, didn't work, troubleshooting for a bit and thought the effecor was messed up, but tried another fan just as a test, that worked(left it on for a few mins too). Great, put the other fan on. Went to test again and it started to turn on, then didn't. Any ideas? It's getting 24V when I turn it on fully.(the pins on reverse side of connector)

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 07:48

      Are you commanding it fully on, or with reduced PWM? Some fans don't work well with PWM.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        Mysta
        last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 16:51

        Tried both, no luck

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          Mysta
          last edited by Mysta 20 Aug 2018, 01:50

          Went back after a while and still starts to move then doesn't. So strange. Here is the fan I bought, the tach is not connected.

          I did notice this the other day, what's it's role?

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 13:25

            That's the series resistor for the illumination LEDs. If R8 is charred but R9 isn't, that suggests you are using greater than 12V power but you didn't remove jumper JP3.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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              adavidm
              last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 14:31

              Have you tried running the fan away from the effector (specifically the magnets)? You have to be careful with the orientation of the magnets to get the fan to run reliably. Caught me out.

              adavidm

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                adavidm @Mysta
                last edited by adavidm 20 Aug 2018, 14:35

                @mysta said in Weird issue with fan:

                I did notice this the other day, what's it's role?

                0_1534775660878_5933fabe-2f90-4852-8661-1e4bf9d11188-image.png

                Looks like R8 is part of the LED circuitry, driven by the Hotend Fan connections.

                edit- sorry, did not see dc42's reply

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                  Mysta
                  last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 15:29

                  So only effects the fan LED. Yeah I did run it away and it ran, so you're saying I need to move the fan further? or is there a way to shield it?

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                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 15:42

                    Check that the magnetic rods are installed with alternate N and S poles around the effector. That reduces the stray magnetic field.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      Mysta @dc42
                      last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 19:23

                      @dc42 said in Weird issue with fan:

                      Check that the magnetic rods are installed with alternate N and S poles around the effector. That reduces the stray magnetic field.

                      Wow, flipping one single rod fixed it. That's crazy.

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                        ShadowX
                        last edited by ShadowX 20 Aug 2018, 20:29

                        Yup... Strong magnets will do that. Wait till you troubleshoot a BL touch and it turns out the problems were due to magnets affecting the sensor. That was a painful lesson for me. Unfortunately, I can't just flip the rods. All my magnets are orientated same direction when I put the rods together to make sure they were all consistent.

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