CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues

Veti

i found this very good analysis of microstepping https://hackaday.com/2016/08/29/how-accurate-is-microstepping-really/

dc42

@zapta said in CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues:

Connected the 12A/24V bed to the Duet directly and everything works like champ. Not sure if I want to install a new SSR. I like the current simplicity.

12A is well within the rating of the Duet. I recommend that at regular intervals you check that the screws in the VIN and bed heater terminal blocks of the Duet are still tight, until you are sure that they are staying tight. This is because high currents can cause creep in wires. Crimping the correct ferrules on to the wire ends reduces this risk.

fcwilt

@zapta said in CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues:

Connected the 12A/24V bed to the Duet directly and everything works like champ. Not sure if I want to install a new SSR. I like the current simplicity.

My heaters are all line voltage heaters (110 VAC) and thus an SSR is needed.

Frederick

zapta

@dc42 said in CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues:

12A is well within the rating of the Duet.

Yes, it seems to handle it very well and the mosfet is cool even at 100% PWM (looked at it with an IR camera).

I did crimp cheap Chinese ferrules, hope they are right, they seem to be made of aluminum(?). Not sure how it will behave when oxidized. I know very little about it

dc42

@zapta said in CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues:

Yes, it seems to handle it very well and the mosfet is cool even at 100% PWM (looked at it with an IR camera).

The rated bed heater current of the Duet isn't set by the MOSFET, it's determined by heating of the PCB traces. Even when using 2oz copper instead of the usual 1oz, and duplicating traces on both sides of the PCB, it's hard to carry 20A on a PCB.

zapta

@dc42, I presume you are aware of this technique but just in case

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-317-pcb-tinning-myth-busting/

Veti

we have a name. VFA (Vertical Fine Artifacts)

https://shop.prusa3d.com/forum/user-mods-octoprint-enclosures-nozzles--f65/stepper-motor-upgrades-to-eliminate-vfa-s-vertical-t28098.html

it seems if you make your printer more precise these artefacts start to show.

after getting an ender 3 to play with i found these artefacts as well on the ender 3.
funny thing is the user started seeing the problem around the same time.

dc42

@zapta said in CoreXY - X-Axis Vibration Issues:

@dc42, I presume you are aware of this technique but just in case

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-317-pcb-tinning-myth-busting/

Yes, but it's not very effective, especially if you are already using 2oz copper.

zapta

@dc42, yes, this is a good point. Doubling the copper thickness doesn't double the solder.