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    • chriskimbrundefined
      chriskimbr
      last edited by chriskimbr

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      I Bought this hot end...
      Long Distance 0.4mm 3D Printer Extruder - Silver 0.4MM
      https://us.gearbest.com/3d-printer-parts/pp_613785.html?wid=1433363

      Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault check thermistor wiring error.

      What do I do?

      Duet2wifi latest firmware.
      Fuse on board looks fine

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        check the resistance of the thermistor with a multimeter

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        • chriskimbrundefined
          chriskimbr @Veti
          last edited by

          @veti how?

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            set your multimeter to ohm and put one probe of the multimeter in each of connector plugs of the thermistor

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              just making sure the thermistors is normally in the heater block?

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              • chriskimbrundefined
                chriskimbr @Veti
                last edited by chriskimbr

                @veti the thermistor is in block when i power on yes.

                I assume i check ohms on thermistor with it out?

                Do i choose auto, kohms or Mohms?

                With thermistor out and multimeter on ohms auto i read 106.1

                With multimeter at Mohms i read 0.104

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                • chriskimbrundefined
                  chriskimbr @chriskimbr
                  last edited by

                  @chriskimbr Is this a good reading or a bad reading?

                  I don't know much about electronics. Please advise.

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by

                    @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                    Do i choose auto, kohms or Mohms?

                    100k is about right for the thermistor

                    what is the temperature reading when you turn on your duet?

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                    • chriskimbrundefined
                      chriskimbr @Veti
                      last edited by

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                      • chriskimbrundefined
                        chriskimbr
                        last edited by

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                        • chriskimbrundefined
                          chriskimbr @Veti
                          last edited by chriskimbr

                          @veti see pics

                          bed is 24 degrees but hot end is 2000.C which is fault.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            do replace the connector with a proper molex plug.

                            check that there is no connection between the thermistor and the heater block/heater element.

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                            • chriskimbrundefined
                              chriskimbr
                              last edited by

                              @veti Are you saying replace the connector to the thermister e-temp 0 ?
                              What is a correct Molex connector for it?

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                              • chriskimbrundefined
                                chriskimbr
                                last edited by chriskimbr

                                I replaced the stock Tronxy X5SA hot end with the v6 clone above.
                                Ohm reading for new thermistor is 106.

                                Would these settings above need to change for the next thermistor / hot end?
                                Would this be causing the VSSA fault reading 2000.0C ?

                                config.g file section for
                                ; Heaters
                                M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                ;M305 P1 R4700 T100000 B4388 ; set E0 thermistor parameters
                                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                  What is a correct Molex connector for it?

                                  the correct connector came with the duet. its the 2 pin one.

                                  @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                  M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700

                                  where did you get those values from?

                                  @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                  Would this be causing the VSSA fault reading 2000.0C ?

                                  no the cause for that is faulty wiring or a blown vssa fuse.

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                                  • chriskimbrundefined
                                    chriskimbr
                                    last edited by chriskimbr

                                    @veti

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                                    Is this the correct connector?

                                    Regarding my setting...
                                    M305 P1 T100000 B4388 C7.060000e-8 R4700

                                    Got the settings from someone else with same printer.

                                    What needs to be changed?

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @chriskimbr said in Replaced hot end and now get vssa fault:

                                      Got the settings from someone else with same printer.

                                      but you switched the thermistor. you need the settings that fit your thermistor.
                                      you can calculate the values from the thermistor table that you hopefully got with the hotend.

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                                      • chriskimbrundefined
                                        chriskimbr @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @veti The hot end with thermistor came with no documentation.

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          then you prob need to either

                                          • measure the resistance at 50 and 240 degrees using a calibrated temperature sensor.
                                          • buy a thermistor with documentation
                                          • live with inaccuracies that could range around 40 degrees
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                                          • chriskimbrundefined
                                            chriskimbr @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @veti Im going to get a cheap hot end and thermistor from local store to test and see if im having same problem.
                                            from what your telling me , i need to look at thermisor table and set the 'C' value ?

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