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    • RE: Power loss controlling laser via ttl on Duet 3

      Ok - problem solved! A new member of our makerspace brought his scope. Turns out, there's a little glitch in the documentation of possible Gcodes für the M452 command:

      @dc42 I suggested the following correction of the at GCode Wiki:

      M452 C"exp.heater3" F100 ; laser uses heater3 pin, PWM frequency 100Hz
      

      instead of:

      M452 C"exp.heater3" Q100 ; laser uses heater3 pin, PWM frequency 100Hz
      

      That letter must have cost me 5 nights 😉

      With this change I got to play with the PWM-frequency:

      • If i set it too low, for example to 500Hz - the default if no F parameter is set, I got the problem described above.
      • If i set it too high, for example the maximum of about 65kHz, i oversaturated my power supply and the laser kept burning at maximum power.

      In the end i settled for 12500Hz - and lazing is fun again!!
      20200722_230343.jpg

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: Power loss controlling laser via ttl on Duet 3

      I'm hoping to get a grip on an oscilloscope in the next couple of days to check the PWM output

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: Power loss controlling laser via ttl on Duet 3

      @droftarts Thanks for your reply.
      I'm using R1 because i use LightBurn with the Smoothieboard-settings - i can't change the min/max S parameters in that profile.
      This is the GCode-File i used:

      ; LightBurn 0.9.14
      ; Smoothieware device profile, current position
      ; Bounds: X-0 Y0 to X100 Y100
      G00 G17 G40 G21
      G91
      M3
      ; Cut @ 500 mm/min, 50% power
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      G1X-0.28Y-1.33
      G1X-0.23Y-1.33
      G1X-0.19Y-1.34
      G1X-0.15Y-1.35
      G1X-0.11Y-1.35
      G1X-0.06Y-1.36
      G1X-0.02Y-1.36
      G1X0.02Y-1.36
      G1X0.07Y-1.36
      G1X0.11Y-1.36
      G1X0.16Y-1.36
      G1X0.2Y-1.35
      G1X0.24Y-1.35
      G1X0.29Y-1.35
      G1X0.33Y-1.33
      G1X0.37Y-1.33
      G1X0.42Y-1.32
      G1X0.46Y-1.3
      G1X0.5Y-1.3
      G1X0.54Y-1.28
      G1X0.58Y-1.26
      G1X0.63Y-1.25
      G1X0.66Y-1.23
      G1X0.71Y-1.22
      G1X0.74Y-1.19
      G1X0.79Y-1.18
      G1X0.82Y-1.15
      G1X0.86Y-1.13
      G1X0.9Y-1.1
      G1X0.93Y-1.08
      G1X0.97Y-1.06
      G1X1Y-1.02
      G1X1.03Y-1
      G1X1.07Y-0.97
      G1X1.1Y-0.94
      G1X1.13Y-0.9
      G1X1.16Y-0.88
      G1X1.19Y-0.84
      G1X1.22Y-0.81
      G1X1.24Y-0.78
      G1X1.27Y-0.73
      G1X1.3Y-0.71
      G1X1.32Y-0.66
      G1X1.34Y-0.63
      G1X1.36Y-0.59
      G1X1.38Y-0.55
      G1X1.4Y-0.51
      G1X1.41Y-0.48
      G1X1.44Y-0.43
      G1X1.44Y-0.39
      G1X1.46Y-0.35
      G1X1.48Y-0.3
      G1X1.48Y-0.27
      G1X1.49Y-0.22
      G1X1.51Y-0.18
      G1X1.5Y-0.13
      G1X1.52Y-0.1
      G1X1.51Y-0.04
      G1X1.52Y-0.01
      G1X1.52Y0.04
      G1X1.53Y0.08
      G1X1.51Y0.13
      G1X1.52Y0.17
      G1X1.51Y0.21
      G1X1.51Y0.26
      G1X1.49Y0.3
      G1X1.49Y0.35
      G1X1.48Y0.38
      G1X1.47Y0.44
      G1X1.45Y0.47
      G1X1.44Y0.51
      G1X1.43Y0.56
      G1X1.4Y0.6
      G1X1.39Y0.64
      G1X1.37Y0.68
      G1X1.35Y0.72
      G1X1.33Y0.76
      G1X1.3Y0.8
      G1X1.28Y0.83
      G1X1.25Y0.88
      G1X1.22Y0.91
      G1X1.2Y0.94
      G1X1.16Y0.98
      G1X1.14Y1.02
      G1X1.1Y1.05
      G1X1.07Y1.08
      G1X1.04Y1.11
      G1X1Y1.14
      G1X0.96Y1.17
      G1X0.93Y1.2
      G1X0.89Y1.23
      G1X0.85Y1.26
      G1X0.81Y1.27
      G1X0.77Y1.31
      G1X0.73Y1.33
      G1X0.69Y1.34
      G1X0.64Y1.37
      G1X0.6Y1.39
      G1X0.56Y1.41
      G1X0.51Y1.42
      G1X0.46Y1.44
      G1X0.22Y0.72
      G1X0.2Y0.73
      G1X0.2Y0.73
      G1X0.18Y0.74
      G1X0.17Y0.74
      G1X0.15Y0.74
      G1X0.15Y0.74
      G1X0.13Y0.74
      G1X0.12Y0.75
      G1X0.11Y0.75
      G1X0.1Y0.75
      G1X0.09Y0.75
      G1X0.07Y0.76
      G1X0.06Y0.75
      G1X0.05Y0.76
      G1X0.04Y0.76
      G1X0.03Y0.76
      G1X0.01Y0.76
      G1Y0.76
      G1X-0.01Y0.76
      G1X-0.02Y0.76
      G1X-0.04Y0.76
      G1X-0.05Y0.76
      G1X-0.06Y0.76
      G1X-0.07Y0.76
      G1X-0.09Y0.76
      G1X-0.09Y0.75
      G1X-0.11Y0.76
      G1X-0.12Y0.76
      G1X-0.14Y0.75
      G1X-0.14Y0.75
      G1X-0.16Y0.75
      G1X-0.17Y0.75
      G1X-0.18Y0.75
      G1X-0.19Y0.74
      G1X-0.21Y0.74
      G1X-0.22Y0.74
      G1X-0.23Y0.74
      G1X-0.24Y0.73
      G1X-0.25Y0.73
      G1X-0.55Y1.45
      G1X-0.59Y1.43
      G1X-0.63Y1.42
      G1X-0.68Y1.4
      G1X-0.73Y1.38
      G1X-0.77Y1.36
      G1X-0.82Y1.34
      G1X-0.86Y1.32
      G1X-0.9Y1.29
      G1X-0.94Y1.27
      G1X-0.99Y1.24
      G1X-1.03Y1.21
      G1X-1.06Y1.19
      G1X-1.1Y1.15
      G1X-1.15Y1.13
      G1X-1.17Y1.09
      G1X-1.22Y1.05
      G1X-1.25Y1.03
      G1X-1.28Y0.98
      G1X-1.31Y0.96
      G1X-1.35Y0.91
      G1X-1.38Y0.87
      G1X-1.4Y0.84
      G1X-1.43Y0.8
      G1X-1.46Y0.75
      G1X-1.48Y0.72
      G1X-1.51Y0.67
      G1X-1.53Y0.62
      G1X-0.77Y0.3
      G1X-0.78Y0.29
      G1X-0.79Y0.27
      G1X-0.78Y0.27
      G1X-0.79Y0.25
      G1X-0.8Y0.24
      G1X-0.8Y0.23
      G1X-0.81Y0.22
      G1X-0.8Y0.21
      G1X-0.82Y0.2
      G1X-0.81Y0.18
      G1X-0.82Y0.17
      G1X-0.82Y0.16
      G1X-0.83Y0.15
      G1X-0.82Y0.14
      G1X-0.83Y0.13
      G1X-0.84Y0.11
      G1X-0.83Y0.1
      G1X-0.84Y0.09
      G1X-0.84Y0.08
      G1X-0.84Y0.06
      G1X-0.84Y0.06
      G1X-0.84Y0.04
      G1X-0.84Y0.03
      G1X-0.85Y0.02
      G1X-0.84
      G1X-0.84Y-0.01
      G1X-0.85Y-0.02
      M107
      G1S0
      M5
      ; return to starting pos
      G0 X-43.68Y-99.97
      M2
      

      No reason for the 20'000 Hz, i think i read that the duet 3 can output 65khz max. - i can't find any recommandations on the cloudray power supply specs for this. I'm using this one: 100W CO2 Laser Power Supply MYJG-100W LCD. My nooby self expects a smoother average voltage with higher PWM-frequency.

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • Power loss controlling laser via ttl on Duet 3

      I'd love to get some advice from you guys.

      I'm using the new Duet 3 Motherboard 6HC + RPi (DSF Version: 3.1.1, RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.1.1 (2020-05-19b2)) and built my own laser using an SPT 100W red dot tube and an Cloudray 100W power supply. It moves, it lazes, but not consistently. I spent many nights troubleshooting and would love to get your input on the following problem:

      When i start a lazing job, initially the power is very high, but looses lots of power over the next 4-5cm - it finishes the job with this very low power (probably only about 20% of the acutal set power) - it sometimes doesn't even activate the laser anymore (which means less than about 5-6mA). During all this i get normal amperage readings (17mA for S0.5 = 50% PWM), which confuses me.

      Today i disconnected the power supply from the Duet 3 and controlled power via a potentiometer - no power loss here (I'm very happy about this - thought i killed the tube!). Below you'll find two test jobs i just lazed.

      20200721_141513.jpg
      Image: Left - 15mA via Potentiometer, Right - 17mA via TTL

      All this tells me I must be doing something wrong controlling the lasers power input via TTL:

      • I connected the 5V rail of the power supply to the "IN" port - which should give full power if activated via TTL.
      • I attach the ground-cable from the duets "out9" (the somewhat dedicated laser output port) to TTL_High "H" on the power supply and ground from the out9-port to ground on the power supply.
      • I'm overriding the waterpump-alarm on the power supply with a simple switch.

      This is my config.g:

      ; General preferences
      G90                              ; send absolute coordinates...
      M550 P"Duet 3"                   ; set printer name
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S1                     ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1                     ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S0                     ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
      M569 P0.4 S1                     ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.4 Z0.2          ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1              ; configure microstepping without interpolation
      M92 X53.33 Y53.33 Z3820.00       ; set steps per mm
      M566 X100.00 Y100.00 Z50.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X20000.00 Y20000.00 Z500.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z20.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1650 Y1650 Z1650 I30       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                          ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                 ; set axis minima
      M208 X1358 Y878 Z240 S0          ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Use Endstops
      M574 X2 S1 P"!io0.in"                    
      M574 Y1 S1 P"!io1.in+!io4.in"                
      M574 Z2 S1 P"!io2.in"              
      
      ; Laser
      M452 C"out9" R1 S1 Q20000 
      

      I think this should be all the information needed. I'm happy to provide more if I missed something.
      Thanks for your help

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: DWC - dashboard move buttons: using G1-movements for XYZ-moves?

      Might this be because of the sticky S setting in laser mode definition?

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Duet 3 Laser and PWM Frequency

      @jay_s_uk With a duet 3? If yes: Which profile do you use?

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: Going to build a laser engraver...

      Disregard my statement above - with further testing - it doesn't seem to play along.... - Let's wait for the firware update

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: Duet 3 Laser and PWM Frequency

      @bearer Couldn't find an acceptable machine profile yet. Engraving and cutting probably needs the speed-adjusted update thats scheduled to come soon to duet3 firmware as @dc42 mentioned in other posts.

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • DWC - dashboard move buttons: using G1-movements for XYZ-moves?

      Im using the Duet 3 with the lastest unstable releases in laser mode.

      Writing my own programms and using homing-macros works as expected: G0 moves don't turn the laser on, G1s do.
      If I move my x,y or z-axis in the Dashboard the movements seem to be G1 movements as the laser fires 😮 - I only noticed this because my z-movement is slow. If i set the speed of movement buttons to 500 - all movements fire.

      Do i need to invert the pin in Laser mode definition - if so, why do the G0 and G1 movements work as expected?

      posted in General Discussion laser duet web control move buttons dashboard
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    • RE: Duet 3 Laser and PWM Frequency

      Thanks @dc42 for your help - your work is highly appreciated! That PWM-Frequency really gave me a headache. Lots of information, but i couldn't find anything relevant to my situation. Your explanation makes a lot of sense, though.

      I spent last night trying to figure things out and in the end: My speeds were too slow - as you suggested. I'm now off to my next mission: Finding suitable Laser-CAMs for the Duet 3.

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • RE: Going to build a laser engraver...

      The Grbl (not LPC and not M3) profile seems to work quite OK.

      posted in Laser Cutters
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    • Duet 3 Laser and PWM Frequency

      Hi

      I've built my own Lasercutter/-engraver using the Duet 3 and a Raspi/SBC.

      Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
      DSF Version: 1.3.2.0
      Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.01-RC7 (2020-04-14b3)
      

      I use a SPT 100W power supply and their 100W TR CO2 laser tube.
      I can't find any information on which PWM frequency I should use for the M452 Laser Mode definition (This Page led me to using 10000Hz).

      Measuring the PWM output on out9 I get correct voltages - that's why I assume my configuration isn't that bad.

      My config.g looks like this:

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Tue Mar 10 2020 15:29:19 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                              ; send absolute coordinates...
      M550 P"Duet 3"                   ; set printer name
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S1                     ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1                     ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S0                     ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
      M569 P0.4 S1                     ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.4 Z0.2          ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I0              ; configure microstepping without interpolation
      M92 X53.33 Y53.33 Z3820.00       ; set steps per mm
      M566 X20.00 Y20.00 Z50.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X50000.00 Y30000.00 Z500.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X5000.00 Y500.00 Z20.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1650 Y1650 Z1650 I30       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                          ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                 ; set axis minima
      M208 X1359 Y878 Z240 S0          ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Use Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"!io0.in"                       ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
      M574 Y1 S1 P"!io1.in"                       ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
      M574 Z1 S1 P"!io2.in"                      ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Z
      
      ; Use Motor Stall As Endstop - ENDSTOPS NOT BUILT IN YET
      ;M574 X1 S4
      ;M574 Y1 S4
      ;M574 Z1 S4
      ;M915 X,Y,Z S20 F0 H200 R0
      
      ; Laser
      M452 C"out9" R255 S1 Q10000 
      

      My macro to test the laser looks like this:

      G91
      G1 X5 S10 F1000
      G1 X5 S20
      G1 X5 S30
      G1 X5 S40
      G1 X5 S50
      G1 X5 S60
      G1 X5 S70
      G1 X5 S80
      G1 X5 S90
      G1 X5 S100
      G1 X5 S110
      G1 X5 S120
      G1 X5 S130
      G1 X5 S140
      G1 X5 S150
      G1 X5 S160
      G1 X5 S170
      G1 X5 S180
      G1 X5 S190
      G1 X5 S200
      G1 X5 S210
      G1 X5 S220
      G1 X5 S230
      G1 X5 S240
      G1 X5 S255
      G90
      G0 X0
      

      The line it burns into the wood start really light and switches to maximal at around S50 already.

      Am I missing a hardware limitation? Is my GCode incorrect?

      posted in Laser Cutters
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