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    • lignumaquaundefined
      lignumaqua
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      You connect the coils in the two stepper motors in series, not in parallel. That way they both see 2A. Duet WiFi is just the same, it just does the series connection for you to a single driver.

      Yes, you can use the IR sensor for bed leveling.

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      • Atomic3Dundefined
        Atomic3D
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        OK, so series would be connecting the 2 stepper motors together into one connection? sorry I am new to printer electronics and such.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          @Atomic3D:

          OK, so series would be connecting the 2 stepper motors together into one connection? sorry I am new to printer electronics and such.

          Yes. You can find images on connecting stepper motors in series on the web.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • Atomic3Dundefined
            Atomic3D
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            Thanks, I have seen wiring diagrams but never knew what was series or parallel.

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            • Atomic3Dundefined
              Atomic3D
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              Last question, when using the ir probe for be leveling do I still use the z endstop? or does the ir probe take its place?

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                You can do either, but on Cartesian printers, it's common to use the Z probe to do Z homing instead of using a switch. You select whether to use a Z probe or a switch in your homez.g and homeall.g files.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman
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                  ….and with a tab of some sort positioned in the right place and covered in something reflective, you can use the same probe for X (and/or Y) homing too. This is how it was done on the RRP Mendel.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
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                  • botundefined
                    bot
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                    @Atomic3D:

                    OK, so series would be connecting the 2 stepper motors together into one connection? sorry I am new to printer electronics and such.

                    Hold on, what do you mean by 2 motors together into one connection? Make sure you understand the difference between series and parallel, because by simply putting the wire of each motor into the same slot on the connector would be parallel, and not series.

                    See this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Wiring-Your-Z-Stepper-Motors-in-Series/

                    *not actually a robot

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                    • Atomic3Dundefined
                      Atomic3D
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                      Well that is beyond my skill level, I suck at soldering and also manipulating small wires with my eyesight is horrible. I can build a printer with no issue I have built 2, I know very basic limited electronics, enough to get by. So I guess I need to find a different board for my printer I want to build instead I want to make a omerod style printer or mayne add a second z axis with a belt system.

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                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                        T3P3Tony administrators
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                        Hey Atomic. No requirement for soldering, it's just wiring the plug differently. Rather than both reds, both blacks etc you wire so the current goes through 1 motor coil, then the other then back to the board.

                        The instruction above gives an example

                        http://www.instructables.com/id/Wiring-Your-Z-Stepper-Motors-in-Series/

                        However there are some other examples on Google. I will add something to the documentation when I am not on my phone.

                        www.duet3d.com

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                        • StephenRCundefined
                          StephenRC
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                          You could get something like this to make the connections: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/on-shore-technology-inc/ES1000-12DSFB/ED3006-ND/2720753

                          Cut off the current connectors a few inches from the connector on the motors and use the terminal block with one of the cutoffs to wire them together without any solder, to connect the motors to the Duet.

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                          • Atomic3Dundefined
                            Atomic3D
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                            @StephenRC:

                            You could get something like this to make the connections: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/on-shore-technology-inc/ES1000-12DSFB/ED3006-ND/2720753

                            Cut off the current connectors a few inches from the connector on the motors and use the terminal block with one of the cutoffs to wire them together without any solder, to connect the motors to the Duet.

                            How exactly would I use that connector? I am not grasping the concept. So how would the wires connect? there is really no clear info for those who are trying to learn basic electronics, does each color wire get connected together? all I see is a small board that you have to make and that's all I get from it. Is there a pre-made thing I can use?

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                            • StephenRCundefined
                              StephenRC
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                              What I linked to is a terminal block, it lets you connect wires without soldering.

                              This style is easier to see how they work: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex-llc/0387700104/WM5761-ND/362488

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                              • Atomic3Dundefined
                                Atomic3D
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                                So further looking at pictures, I am assuming that wires from motor one go into motor 2 and then out of motor 2 to a connector?

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                                • StephenRCundefined
                                  StephenRC
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                                  Not all the wires from motor 1 go through motor 2. Interesting, googling a wiring diagram that works for a 3d printer isn't all that easy.

                                  This should help: http://rigidtalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=Z-Axis_Stepper_Motor_-_Series_Connected_Splitter_Board#Why_Series.3F

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                                  • Atomic3Dundefined
                                    Atomic3D
                                    last edited by

                                    @StephenRC:

                                    Not all the wires from motor 1 go through motor 2. Interesting, googling a wiring diagram that works for a 3d printer isn't all that easy.

                                    This should help: http://rigidtalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=Z-Axis_Stepper_Motor_-_Series_Connected_Splitter_Board#Why_Series.3F

                                    I really appreciated it. So all i need to do is connect the wires shown in the diagram? And use the connector you listed to connect the in the order shown?

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      Here http://m.imgur.com/gallery/JwKg3uj is a wiring diagram that uses a terminal block. You can buy a terminal block in the electrical section of a DIY store (home improvement store in the US).

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                      • Atomic3Dundefined
                                        Atomic3D
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                                        Here is a question, how come I cant convert one of the extruder port for a second motor?

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          Look up the M584 command in the gcode wiki at RepRapFirmware.org.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • Atomic3Dundefined
                                            Atomic3D
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok, I sorta get that, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. So as long as that command doesn't exist than it will map how I set it up. Merry xmas dc42.

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