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    • LeonMFundefined
      LeonMF @LeonMF
      last edited by

      Here is a dropbox link to my config:
      https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6954n6rumxr327/MonkeyMega-Config-2019-09-07.zip?dl=0

      Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
      Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        I think you may need to define U in your M584 command? And I'm not sure but I think it should be P4 instead of P3.

        I don't personally use multiple independent motors for Z, so I could be wrong.

        I'm sure you've seen this, but maybe a good idea to go over it once more and try to follow the examples.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt
          last edited by

          Hi,

          That article that Phaedrux referenced makes no mention of creating other axes.

          So I think there may be something amiss in your configuration.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Just to make it clearer what is happening when homing Z

            ; homez.g
            ; called to home the Z axis
            ;
            
            ; ============= PRE-HOMING =====================
            
            ; Ignore Machine boundaries
            M564 H0 S0
            
            ; Turn off bed leveling during homing
            G29 S2 ; Does the same as M561!
            G29 S2 ; Do it twice because once just isn't enough
            
            ; Switch to Origin Tool
            T0
            
            ; Relative positioning
            G91
            
            ; Provide Z height clearance
            G1 Z10 F250 S1
            
            
            ; =========== Reconfigure axes =========
            M584 Z2 U4 P4 ; Split Z into 2 (Z+U)
            
            ; =========== set U axis current ======
            ;M906 U1200 I60; Set motor currents (mA) and idle current percentage
            
            
            ; ============ HOME Z ==============
            ; Rapid Z+U until limit switch triggers
            G0 Z450 U450 F1500 S1
            
            ; Back off to release limit switch
            G1 Z-5 U-5 F120 S2
            
            ; Slow advance to trigger limit switch
            G0 Z20 U20 F120 S1
            
            ;Offset U before merge to level platform - again
            ;Offset not needed due to tuned sensor flags.
            ;G1 U-0.5 F1000
            
            ;Merge U and Z again
            M584 Z2:4 P3
            
            ;Move back again 5mm in -z direction
            G1 Z-5 F1500 S2
            
            ;Set actual z-height (might be able to do this in config as part of default height.
            G92 Z322.3 U322.3
            
            ; ============ Post-Homing ==============
            
            ; Revert to absolute coordinates
            G90
            
            ; Re-enable mesh leveling
            G29 S1
            
            ; Stop movement across limits, enable boundaries, homing requirement
            M564 H1 S1
            ;
            

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              The ProMega config setup is a little unorthodox in my opinion. There have been a few other threads trying to sort through it in the recent past.

              Have you seen this? https://promega.printm3d.com/documentation/software-firmware/adjust-homing-macros

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                Check that in config.g you have a M584 command that creates the U axis and also redefines the E drivers, earlier than your M350 and M906 commands. I'm using a smartphone so it's not easy for me to look at the config.g that you uploaded.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I think the problem is that the u axis isn't created until the homing files as it's missing from the m584 in the config.g

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @phaedrux said in Independent Z with Independent Sensors U steps/mm wrong:

                    I think the problem is that the u axis isn't created until the homing files as it's missing from the m584 in the config.g

                    In that case the U motor will still be set up as an extruder, and the microstepping and motor current will be set as for the extruder. So if E microstepping is different from Z microstepping, that would explain the symptom

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • LeonMFundefined
                      LeonMF @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux said in Independent Z with Independent Sensors U steps/mm wrong:

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

                      Yes, that's what I based my config on!

                      Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
                      Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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                      • LeonMFundefined
                        LeonMF @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 @Phaedrux OK, I can certainly modify my config to create the U axis and then combine them. The posted wiki page doesn't say to do that so I missed the obvious!

                        Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
                        Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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                        • LeonMFundefined
                          LeonMF @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux There's no reason to treat this like a Promega. I've gutted it, changed the Z drive system to dual lead screws, the rails, the carriage, the board, the bed...

                          Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
                          Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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                          • LeonMFundefined
                            LeonMF
                            last edited by

                            Defining U in config.g before then combining worked for me. Thanks for the help!

                            Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
                            Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @LeonMF
                              last edited by

                              @leonmf said in Independent Z with Independent Sensors U steps/mm wrong:

                              Defining U in config.g before then combining worked for me. Thanks for the help!

                              Hi,

                              What is the reason for end stop switches on both z axes?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt I believe it's used as an X axis leveling mechanism.

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