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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk
      last edited by

      Rather than run both z motors off the z connector, run them independently. So map the other one to E1 (for example). Then connect the second end stop to E1.
      See M584 in the wiki

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • pauleddundefined
        pauledd
        last edited by

        Thanks, I just run both Z motors togehter with just one endstop and homing seems to work so far. Is there a specific advantage running both steppers and both endstops independently ?

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        • grizewaldundefined
          grizewald @pauledd
          last edited by

          @pauledd said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

          Thanks, I just run both Z motors togehter with just one endstop and homing seems to work so far. Is there a specific advantage running both steppers and both endstops independently ?

          If you only have one Z end stop, you can't be sure that both lead screws end up at the same position when you home the Z axis. My i3 Mega has two Z end stops and it took a lot of adjustment to make sure that the adjusters were set properly so that the X axis is perfectly parallel to the bed, but once I'd adjusted it properly, both Z carriages end up at exactly the same height above the chassis after homing.

          If I remember correctly, the fact that you couldn't get the X axis level properly with just one Z end stop was one of the initial criticisms of the i3 Mega. Mine came with two Z end stops and was a later model. It still drives the two Z motors from one stepper, but doesn't stop driving them down until both switches are closed.

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          • pauleddundefined
            pauledd @jay_s_uk
            last edited by pauledd

            @jay_s_uk said in Anycubic I3 Mega Mod questions:

            M584

            Okay, so I'll try now two seperate drivers for the Z-axis.

            Z+ stepper (the left one) is plugged into the outer "Z" and I put both
            jumpers back on the inner one. Z- stepper (the right one) is now in E1.
            Endstop Z+ is in Z and Endstop Z- is in E1.

            So I change these commands in my "Drives" section in config.g:

            ;M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ;old
            
            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ;new
            

            Now, do I need to change anything else? Or applies "steps per mm , accelerations etc..." automatically to both Z-drivers?

            And do I have to change something in the "endstop" section? It currently
            have this code:

            M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0
            

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            • pauleddundefined
              pauledd
              last edited by

              Ok, I'll try to follow this guide:
              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Independent+Z+motors+and+endstop+switches/18?lang=en

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              • pauleddundefined
                pauledd
                last edited by

                Well, this of cause didnt work...

                If I press "Home Z" both Z-Steppers start to move down.
                They both hit the endstop and the right stepper (E1) stops moving
                but the left stepper (plugged in Z) keeps on moving and makes a great
                loud rattling noise. So I immediately press the emergency stop button.

                I checked both enstops (Z & E1), both leds lit on if pressed.
                Under "Machine Properties" the Z endstops shows correctly "yes"
                if pressed. The other E1 endstop is not in that list. Instead I have an E0 endstop which is unconnected on my board...

                Bildschirmfoto_2019-09-13_14-17-26.png

                My config.g:

                ; Axis Limits
                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 S1                          ; set axis minima
                M208 X210 Y210 Z205 U205 S0                    ; set axis maxima
                
                M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 U4 E3 P3                          ; set drive mapping
                
                ; Endstops
                M574 X1 Y1 Z1 U1 S0                          ; set active low and disabled endstops
                
                G90                                       ; send absolute coordinates...
                M83                                       ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"Pauls Duet"                        ; set printer name
                
                ; Network
                M552 S1                                   ; enable network
                M586 P0 S1                                ; enable HTTP
                M586 P1 S0                                ; disable FTP
                M586 P2 S1                                ; enable Telnet
                
                ; Drives
                M569 P0 S0                                ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                M569 P1 S0                                ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                M569 P2 S1                                ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                M569 P3 S1                                ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                M569 P4 S1				  ; Z- physical drive 4 goes forwards
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1                   ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 U400.00 E92.60          ; set steps per mm
                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 Z12.00  E120.00       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z360.00 U360.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X8000.00 Y8000.00 Z50.00 U50.00 E250.00     ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 U1200 E1200 I30          ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30                                   ; Set idle timeout
                
                ; Z-Probe
                M558 P0 H40 F120 T3000                    ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                M557 X15:210 Y15:195 S20                  ; define mesh grid
                
                ; Heaters
                M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                M143 H0 S90                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
                M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                M143 H1 S245                              ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 245C
                
                ; Fans
                M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                    ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                
                ; Tools
                M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                          ; define tool 0
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                           ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0                              ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                
                ; Custom settings
                M552 S1
                

                My homeall.g

                G91                     ; relative positioning
                G1 Z30 F3000 H2     	; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 X-215 Y-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                G1 X5 Y5 F3000          ; go back a few mm
                G1 X-215 Y-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                
                M98 homez.g
                

                My homez.g

                G91               ; relative positioning
                
                G1 Z30 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative to current position
                
                ; split Z motor control to Z and U
                ; for it to work we have to show U (param P4) in the UI
                M584 Z2 U4 P4
                
                ; Move Z and U  down until the switches triggers
                G1 Z-205 U-205 F1000 H1
                ; back to combined axes and hidden U
                M584 Z2:4 P3
                
                ; Back to absolute positioning
                G90
                
                ; Tell the firmware where we are
                G92 Z0
                
                ; lift Z after probing
                G91
                G1 Z10 F1000
                G90
                

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                • grizewaldundefined
                  grizewald
                  last edited by

                  If you have axes X, Y and Z and then you create a fourth axis, the end stop for that fourth axis will be the first unused end stop in order. So, if you don't have your second Z end stop connected to the E0 end stop input, then you should connect it there.

                  That's why it's showing you an E0 end stop.

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                  • pauleddundefined
                    pauledd
                    last edited by pauledd

                    @grizewald thanks 👍

                    Works now!
                    What I did:

                    • replugged Z(-) stepper into E0 and Z-endstop into E0

                    config.g:

                    • moving the M584 code above M208 code
                    • changed M584 to M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 P3
                    • corrected M566 to M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 U12.00 E120.00

                    homeall.g:

                    • changed M98 to M98 Phomez.g

                    homez.g:

                    G91               ; relative positioning
                    
                    G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative 10mm
                    
                    ; split Z motor control to Z and U
                    ; for it to work we have to show U (param P4) in the UI
                    M584 Z2:3 U3 P4
                    
                    ; Move Z and U  down until the switches triggers
                    G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
                    
                    ; back to combined axes and hidden U
                    M584 Z2:3 U3 P3
                    
                    ; Back to absolute positioning
                    G90
                    
                    ; Tell the firmware where we are
                    G92 Z0
                    
                    ; lift Z after probing
                    G91
                    G1 Z10 F1000
                    G90
                    

                    Tomorrow I have the fans on my list ☺

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                    • grizewaldundefined
                      grizewald
                      last edited by grizewald

                      Great! You're making good progress.

                      It doesn't matter if you had the second Z motor in E1 or E0, just that you moved the end stop to the next free one in order. It's actually simpler to leave the first extruder in E0 and put the second Z motor in E1 as the firmware expects that you will use E0 for the first extruder.

                      In the end though, it doesn't really matter, as long as you describe everything correctly for the firmware. It certainly beats re-compiling and flashing firmware every time you want to make a configuration change!

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                      • pauleddundefined
                        pauledd
                        last edited by

                        Fans are workin!

                        Of cause I forgot to put the V_FAN jumper on V_IN as I wondered
                        why nothing moves...

                        Just for those who stew over how to connect the Anycubic (FAN1) connector, that's how I wired it to the Duet:

                        Bildschirmfoto_2019-09-14_08-18-03.png

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                        • pauleddundefined
                          pauledd
                          last edited by pauledd

                          Hotbed is working!
                          I measured the current to the hotbed alone and that gave me about 14.3A while heating up to 55°C. The 15A fuse got hot to about 65°C but once the bed reached 55°C it cooled down to about 50°C.

                          Should I go for a 20A fuse?

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk
                            last edited by

                            It might be worth thinking about an SSR to control the heated bed so you're not putting all the power through the duet.

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            • pauleddundefined
                              pauledd
                              last edited by

                              Yes, I consider that if everything else works perfectly.

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                              • pauleddundefined
                                pauledd
                                last edited by pauledd

                                Hotend works too!

                                But now three steps back to Z-Axis problem 😠
                                Z+ stepper (left) again crashed onto the endstop while doing a Home Z, the Z+ endstop led was even lit up...

                                By the way and quite strange, If I trigger both Z endstopps
                                earlier with my fingers the homing process finishes every time successfully. I'll try to fiddle a bit more, maybe I get behind that mystery. Maybe I twist both endstops to see if one is kind of faulty...

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                                • pauleddundefined
                                  pauledd
                                  last edited by pauledd

                                  Z Axis Problem still not solved but at least the last crash was some time ago... I now monitor the Z endstops IO pins with my oscilloscope to find out if there is something strange if it crashes again.

                                  But I couldnt resist to print my first testcube that came out good, with a LOT room 😁 for optimization.

                                  20190915_110348_HDR.jpg
                                  Thermal situation while printing the cube:
                                  (steppers set to 1.2A)

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4siLtXD9I&feature=youtu.be

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                                  • pauleddundefined
                                    pauledd
                                    last edited by pauledd

                                    I noticed something weird if I do a "HOME-Z". That might be the reason
                                    for crashing Z-axis into endstops or my understanding of that process is wrong/incomplete. Just as a side note, I changed the endstops with new ones and checked the endstop signals on my oscilloscope but this did not solve the crashing problem...

                                    What I observed:

                                    I move the Z axis up a bit so that I can test both endstops without crashing the axis onto them.

                                    I press HOME-Z.

                                    Z axis moves slowly down. I press the right endstop first, nothing happens, both steppers continue moving until I press the left endstop.
                                    (that would produce a crash if endstops are triggered with delay).

                                    Now I test HOME-Z again but this time I press left endstop first.
                                    As I trigger left endstop the RIGHT stepper stops, the left one keeps moving until I trigger the right endstop.
                                    (that would produce a crash too if there is a delay between both endstop triggering...)

                                    Is my understanding wrong and this is the intended procedure or is there something wrong?

                                    Shouldn't stop the left stepper if I trigger the left endstop and vice versa? Is this maybe a software problem?

                                    I also recorded a video, you might have problems to see the steppers stop because they move quite slowly...

                                    https://youtu.be/qJ-i4Jgc1WA

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                                    • grizewaldundefined
                                      grizewald @pauledd
                                      last edited by

                                      @pauledd How about posting your current config.g and homing files? Also, can you confirm which end stop inputs and motor outputs you have the two Z motors and two Z end stop switches connected to?

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                                      • pauleddundefined
                                        pauledd
                                        last edited by

                                        Sure.

                                        Bildschirmfoto_2019-09-19_11-15-59.png

                                        Z+ stepper --> Z
                                        Z- stepper --> E0
                                        Z+ endstop --> Z-STOP
                                        Z- endstop --> E0-STOP

                                        config.g:

                                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 P3                          ; set drive mapping
                                        
                                        M208 X-115:107.5 Y-107.5:107.5 Z0:205 U0:205
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 Y1 Z1 U1 S0                          ; set active low and disabled endstops
                                        
                                        G90                                       ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83                                       ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"Pauls Duet"                        ; set printer name
                                        
                                        ; Network
                                        M552 S1                                   ; enable network
                                        M586 P0 S1                                ; enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S0                                ; disable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S1                                ; enable Telnet
                                        
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0 S0                                ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                                        M569 P1 S0                                ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                                        M569 P2 S1                                ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                        M569 P3 S1                                ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                        M569 P4 S1				  ; Z- physical drive 4 goes forwards
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 U16 E16 I1                   ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80.02 Y80.07 Z398.00 U398.00 E92.60          ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 U12.00 E120.00       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X4000 Y4000 Z360.00 U360.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z50.00 U50.00 E250.00     ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 U1200 E1200 I30          ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S10                                   ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P0 H40 F120 T3000                    ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                        M557 X15:210 Y15:195 S20                  ; define mesh grid
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S90                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
                                        M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700  ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                        M143 H1 S245                              ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 245C
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                    ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                          ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                           ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0                              ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        ; Custom settings
                                        M552 S1
                                        

                                        homeall.g:

                                        G91                     ; relative positioning
                                        G1 Z10 F3000 H2     	; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G1 X-215 Y-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                        G1 X5 Y5 F3000          ; go back a few mm
                                        G1 X-215 Y-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                        
                                        M98 Phomez.g
                                        

                                        home.x:

                                        G91               ; relative positioning
                                        G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G1 X-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                        G1 X5 F1800       ; go back a few mm
                                        G1 X-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                        G1 Z-10 F1800 H2  ; lower Z again
                                        G90               ; absolute positioning
                                        
                                        

                                        home.y:

                                        G91               ; relative positioning
                                        G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G1 Y-215 F1800 H1 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                        G1 Y5 F1800       ; go back a few mm
                                        G1 Y-215 F360 H1  ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                        G1 Z-10 F1800 H2  ; lower Z again
                                        G90               ; absolute positioning
                                        

                                        home.z:

                                        M98 Phomex.g	  ; home X first to move head outside
                                        G91               ; relative positioning
                                        G1 Z10 F3000 H2   ; lift Z relative 10mm
                                        
                                        M584 Z2:3 U3 P4
                                        
                                        G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
                                        
                                        M584 Z2:3 U3 P3
                                        
                                        G90
                                        G92 Z0
                                        
                                        ; lift Z after probing
                                        G91
                                        G1 Z10 F1000
                                        G90
                                        

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                                        • grizewaldundefined
                                          grizewald @pauledd
                                          last edited by grizewald

                                          @pauledd In your homez.g you have:

                                          M584 Z2:3 U3 P4
                                          G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
                                          M584 Z2:3 U3 P3

                                          That should be:

                                          M584 Z2 U3 P4
                                          G1 Z-205 U-205 F100 H1
                                          M584 Z2:3 P3

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                                          • pauleddundefined
                                            pauledd
                                            last edited by

                                            @grizewald
                                            Thanks a lot! I changed the lines to your suggestions.

                                            If I now HOME-Z and I trigger the left endstop the right stepper stops moving and the left stepper keeps moving until I trigger the right endstop.

                                            And vice versa if I trigger the the right endstop first the left stepper stops moving and the right stepper keeps moving until I trigger the left endstop.

                                            🙃

                                            So the behaviour is now much more kind of correct but exactly the opposite of what I expected, that is to say left endstop stops left stepper, right endstop stops right stepper. I double checked that I didnt twist the endstops accidentally but they are in the correct socket as drawn in the image above.
                                            Shall I twist them simply to make them behave correctly or is there still somewhere a misconfiguration perceivable

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