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    • Stephen6309undefined
      Stephen6309 @MrOppip
      last edited by

      @MrOppip Your homing files determine what happens during homing. Post your homing files.

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      • MrOppipundefined
        MrOppip
        last edited by

        I put the .json because you could see all the configuration from the browser.

        here are the individual files:
        tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.json config.g bed.g

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          in your homex.g do you see the commands to lift the z up and down?

          ; homex.g
          ; called to home the X axis
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 24 2019 00:04:06 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
          G91 ; relative positioning
          G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
          G1 S1 X-305 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
          G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
          G1 S1 X-305 F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
          G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
          G90 ; absolute positioning

          also unless there is a specific reason, you should go with x16 and interpolation.
          do you have 0.9 or 1.8 degree steppers?

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          • MrOppipundefined
            MrOppip @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti I know, that means it rises 5mm before x home .... but it rises more.
            1.8 degrees.
            In the configurator I set x256. I will do the test with x16 but I don't think that's the reason

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @MrOppip
              last edited by Veti

              @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

              .... but it rises more.

              measure the exact distance with a ruler. more does not give any clues as to what the difference is using the manual movements from the web interface.

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              • MrOppipundefined
                MrOppip
                last edited by

                you were right. it was enough to set x16 and the right steps to fix the z shift.
                strange, I didn't understand because with x256 it moved too much.
                thanks for the advice

                now another problem has arrived. The extruder does not work.
                I warmed up, I enabled the tool, but the extruder does not send the filament forward or backward.
                The engine works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.
                so I think that the E0 driver is broken.
                I tried to use E1 modifying the config like this:
                M569 P4 S0
                M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E4
                But it did not work.
                Is it possible also the E1 driver is broken?

                When I had the duet on another printer I found the extruder motor cable fused. Could the E0 and E1 drivers be broken?

                How can I check?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
                  see if you can home.
                  Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

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                  • MrOppipundefined
                    MrOppip @Veti
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                    @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                    to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
                    see if you can home.
                    Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

                    I did the test you told me.
                    E0 and E1 drivers work great with X and Y motors.
                    I put the connections as first ..... extruder does not move.
                    I also tried cold extrusions but it doesn't work.

                    what can I do?

                    tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.g bed.g

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt
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                      Hi,

                      Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • MrOppipundefined
                        MrOppip @fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        Hi,

                        Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                        Frederick

                        The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @MrOppip
                          last edited by fcwilt

                          @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                          @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                          Hi,

                          Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                          Frederick

                          The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                          I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                          When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • MrOppipundefined
                            MrOppip @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                            @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                            @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                            Hi,

                            Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                            Frederick

                            The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                            I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                            When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                            Frederick

                            it was written in the previous post

                            sure, otherwise the extrusion and protrusion button is disabled

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

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                              • MrOppipundefined
                                MrOppip @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

                                first method:
                                power on duet
                                home all
                                activated heater
                                heated 200 °
                                in "extruder control" pressed extrude
                                then retract.

                                second method:
                                power on duet
                                activated heater
                                in "gcode console" given command M302 P1
                                then G1 E50
                                then G1 E-50

                                nothing moves

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  can you verify with a multimeter that the phases on the extruder stepper are correct.
                                  i.e. one phase for red and blue and one for green and black.

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @MrOppip
                                    last edited by

                                    @MrOppip

                                    I don't see where you selected the tool.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • MrOppipundefined
                                      MrOppip @fcwilt
                                      last edited by

                                      @fcwilt
                                      activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                      @Veti
                                      yes is the first thing I checked to run it correctly.
                                      I found that my hardware is perfect because I loaded the Creality Ender 3 Pro predefined configuration from the RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool and the extruder works.

                                      so there's something in myFW that doesn't make the extruder go.

                                      I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                      does it interfere in any way?

                                      in the meantime, thanks for the support

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @MrOppip
                                        last edited by

                                        @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                        @fcwilt
                                        activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                        Hmm...

                                        I cannot check right now but I'm pretty sure a tool can have it's heater in the standby state without the tool being active.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                          I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                          does it interfere in any way?

                                          its shouldnt, but its an easy check. comment the line and try it.

                                          do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                          please post the config where it was working.

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                                          • MrOppipundefined
                                            MrOppip @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                            do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                            I'm not sure if it's useful. I had enabled it along with the ability to save the print in the event of a blackout.

                                            please post the config where it was working.

                                            config Ender.g

                                            checking it I saw that:
                                            ; Tools
                                            M563 P0 D0 H1 F0

                                            in my CR10 file config D0 is not there.

                                            I don't know why the online configurator doesn't create it.

                                            can it be the cause? I haven't had time to try yet.

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