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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      in your homex.g do you see the commands to lift the z up and down?

      ; homex.g
      ; called to home the X axis
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 24 2019 00:04:06 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
      G91 ; relative positioning
      G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 S1 X-305 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
      G1 S1 X-305 F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
      G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
      G90 ; absolute positioning

      also unless there is a specific reason, you should go with x16 and interpolation.
      do you have 0.9 or 1.8 degree steppers?

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      • MrOppipundefined
        MrOppip @Veti
        last edited by

        @Veti I know, that means it rises 5mm before x home .... but it rises more.
        1.8 degrees.
        In the configurator I set x256. I will do the test with x16 but I don't think that's the reason

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @MrOppip
          last edited by Veti

          @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

          .... but it rises more.

          measure the exact distance with a ruler. more does not give any clues as to what the difference is using the manual movements from the web interface.

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          • MrOppipundefined
            MrOppip
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            you were right. it was enough to set x16 and the right steps to fix the z shift.
            strange, I didn't understand because with x256 it moved too much.
            thanks for the advice

            now another problem has arrived. The extruder does not work.
            I warmed up, I enabled the tool, but the extruder does not send the filament forward or backward.
            The engine works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.
            so I think that the E0 driver is broken.
            I tried to use E1 modifying the config like this:
            M569 P4 S0
            M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E4
            But it did not work.
            Is it possible also the E1 driver is broken?

            When I had the duet on another printer I found the extruder motor cable fused. Could the E0 and E1 drivers be broken?

            How can I check?

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
              see if you can home.
              Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

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              • MrOppipundefined
                MrOppip @Veti
                last edited by

                @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
                see if you can home.
                Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

                I did the test you told me.
                E0 and E1 drivers work great with X and Y motors.
                I put the connections as first ..... extruder does not move.
                I also tried cold extrusions but it doesn't work.

                what can I do?

                tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.g bed.g

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  Hi,

                  Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • MrOppipundefined
                    MrOppip @fcwilt
                    last edited by

                    @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                    Hi,

                    Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                    Frederick

                    The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @MrOppip
                      last edited by fcwilt

                      @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                      @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                      Hi,

                      Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                      Frederick

                      The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                      I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                      When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • MrOppipundefined
                        MrOppip @fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        Hi,

                        Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                        Frederick

                        The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                        I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                        When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                        Frederick

                        it was written in the previous post

                        sure, otherwise the extrusion and protrusion button is disabled

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

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                          • MrOppipundefined
                            MrOppip @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                            can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

                            first method:
                            power on duet
                            home all
                            activated heater
                            heated 200 °
                            in "extruder control" pressed extrude
                            then retract.

                            second method:
                            power on duet
                            activated heater
                            in "gcode console" given command M302 P1
                            then G1 E50
                            then G1 E-50

                            nothing moves

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              can you verify with a multimeter that the phases on the extruder stepper are correct.
                              i.e. one phase for red and blue and one for green and black.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @MrOppip
                                last edited by

                                @MrOppip

                                I don't see where you selected the tool.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • MrOppipundefined
                                  MrOppip @fcwilt
                                  last edited by

                                  @fcwilt
                                  activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                  @Veti
                                  yes is the first thing I checked to run it correctly.
                                  I found that my hardware is perfect because I loaded the Creality Ender 3 Pro predefined configuration from the RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool and the extruder works.

                                  so there's something in myFW that doesn't make the extruder go.

                                  I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                  does it interfere in any way?

                                  in the meantime, thanks for the support

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @MrOppip
                                    last edited by

                                    @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                    @fcwilt
                                    activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                    Hmm...

                                    I cannot check right now but I'm pretty sure a tool can have it's heater in the standby state without the tool being active.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                      I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                      does it interfere in any way?

                                      its shouldnt, but its an easy check. comment the line and try it.

                                      do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                      please post the config where it was working.

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                                      • MrOppipundefined
                                        MrOppip @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                        do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                        I'm not sure if it's useful. I had enabled it along with the ability to save the print in the event of a blackout.

                                        please post the config where it was working.

                                        config Ender.g

                                        checking it I saw that:
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0

                                        in my CR10 file config D0 is not there.

                                        I don't know why the online configurator doesn't create it.

                                        can it be the cause? I haven't had time to try yet.

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          yes
                                          If there is no 'D' field the tool has no drives.

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                                          • MrOppipundefined
                                            MrOppip @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                            yes
                                            If there is no 'D' field the tool has no drives.

                                            ok! sorry for the delay but I checked only now.
                                            the problem was just that "D" missing.
                                            now everything works as it should.

                                            Thanks for your help.

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