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    • MrOppipundefined
      MrOppip
      last edited by

      I put the .json because you could see all the configuration from the browser.

      here are the individual files:
      tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.json config.g bed.g

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        in your homex.g do you see the commands to lift the z up and down?

        ; homex.g
        ; called to home the X axis
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.4 on Tue Sep 24 2019 00:04:06 GMT+0200 (Ora legale dell’Europa centrale)
        G91 ; relative positioning
        G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
        G1 S1 X-305 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
        G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
        G1 S1 X-305 F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
        G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
        G90 ; absolute positioning

        also unless there is a specific reason, you should go with x16 and interpolation.
        do you have 0.9 or 1.8 degree steppers?

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        • MrOppipundefined
          MrOppip @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti I know, that means it rises 5mm before x home .... but it rises more.
          1.8 degrees.
          In the configurator I set x256. I will do the test with x16 but I don't think that's the reason

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @MrOppip
            last edited by Veti

            @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

            .... but it rises more.

            measure the exact distance with a ruler. more does not give any clues as to what the difference is using the manual movements from the web interface.

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            • MrOppipundefined
              MrOppip
              last edited by

              you were right. it was enough to set x16 and the right steps to fix the z shift.
              strange, I didn't understand because with x256 it moved too much.
              thanks for the advice

              now another problem has arrived. The extruder does not work.
              I warmed up, I enabled the tool, but the extruder does not send the filament forward or backward.
              The engine works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.
              so I think that the E0 driver is broken.
              I tried to use E1 modifying the config like this:
              M569 P4 S0
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E4
              But it did not work.
              Is it possible also the E1 driver is broken?

              When I had the duet on another printer I found the extruder motor cable fused. Could the E0 and E1 drivers be broken?

              How can I check?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
                see if you can home.
                Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

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                • MrOppipundefined
                  MrOppip @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                  to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
                  see if you can home.
                  Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

                  I did the test you told me.
                  E0 and E1 drivers work great with X and Y motors.
                  I put the connections as first ..... extruder does not move.
                  I also tried cold extrusions but it doesn't work.

                  what can I do?

                  tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.g bed.g

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • MrOppipundefined
                      MrOppip @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                      Hi,

                      Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                      Frederick

                      The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @MrOppip
                        last edited by fcwilt

                        @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                        Hi,

                        Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                        Frederick

                        The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                        I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                        When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • MrOppipundefined
                          MrOppip @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                          @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                          @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                          Hi,

                          Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                          Frederick

                          The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                          I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                          When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                          Frederick

                          it was written in the previous post

                          sure, otherwise the extrusion and protrusion button is disabled

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

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                            • MrOppipundefined
                              MrOppip @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                              can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

                              first method:
                              power on duet
                              home all
                              activated heater
                              heated 200 °
                              in "extruder control" pressed extrude
                              then retract.

                              second method:
                              power on duet
                              activated heater
                              in "gcode console" given command M302 P1
                              then G1 E50
                              then G1 E-50

                              nothing moves

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                can you verify with a multimeter that the phases on the extruder stepper are correct.
                                i.e. one phase for red and blue and one for green and black.

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @MrOppip
                                  last edited by

                                  @MrOppip

                                  I don't see where you selected the tool.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • MrOppipundefined
                                    MrOppip @fcwilt
                                    last edited by

                                    @fcwilt
                                    activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                    @Veti
                                    yes is the first thing I checked to run it correctly.
                                    I found that my hardware is perfect because I loaded the Creality Ender 3 Pro predefined configuration from the RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool and the extruder works.

                                    so there's something in myFW that doesn't make the extruder go.

                                    I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                    does it interfere in any way?

                                    in the meantime, thanks for the support

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @MrOppip
                                      last edited by

                                      @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                      @fcwilt
                                      activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                                      Hmm...

                                      I cannot check right now but I'm pretty sure a tool can have it's heater in the standby state without the tool being active.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                        I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                        does it interfere in any way?

                                        its shouldnt, but its an easy check. comment the line and try it.

                                        do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                        please post the config where it was working.

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                                        • MrOppipundefined
                                          MrOppip @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                          do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                          I'm not sure if it's useful. I had enabled it along with the ability to save the print in the event of a blackout.

                                          please post the config where it was working.

                                          config Ender.g

                                          checking it I saw that:
                                          ; Tools
                                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0

                                          in my CR10 file config D0 is not there.

                                          I don't know why the online configurator doesn't create it.

                                          can it be the cause? I haven't had time to try yet.

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            yes
                                            If there is no 'D' field the tool has no drives.

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