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    • MrOppipundefined
      MrOppip
      last edited by

      you were right. it was enough to set x16 and the right steps to fix the z shift.
      strange, I didn't understand because with x256 it moved too much.
      thanks for the advice

      now another problem has arrived. The extruder does not work.
      I warmed up, I enabled the tool, but the extruder does not send the filament forward or backward.
      The engine works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.
      so I think that the E0 driver is broken.
      I tried to use E1 modifying the config like this:
      M569 P4 S0
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E4
      But it did not work.
      Is it possible also the E1 driver is broken?

      When I had the duet on another printer I found the extruder motor cable fused. Could the E0 and E1 drivers be broken?

      How can I check?

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
        see if you can home.
        Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

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        • MrOppipundefined
          MrOppip @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

          to rule out config problem reconfigure it e0 as x and connect the x stepper to it.
          see if you can home.
          Be aware the M584 has to be one of the first commands in the config.

          I did the test you told me.
          E0 and E1 drivers work great with X and Y motors.
          I put the connections as first ..... extruder does not move.
          I also tried cold extrusions but it doesn't work.

          what can I do?

          tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resume.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.g bed.g

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt
            last edited by

            Hi,

            Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • MrOppipundefined
              MrOppip @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

              Hi,

              Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

              Frederick

              The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @MrOppip
                last edited by fcwilt

                @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                Hi,

                Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                Frederick

                The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • MrOppipundefined
                  MrOppip @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                  @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                  @fcwilt said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                  Hi,

                  Did you verify that the cables to the extruder motors are good?

                  Frederick

                  The motor and cable works well because I tried to connect it to x driver.

                  I read that you tried the X,Y motors with the E0,E1 drivers. I missed where you tried the extruder motor with the X driver.

                  When trying to extrude via DWC do you have a tool selected?

                  Frederick

                  it was written in the previous post

                  sure, otherwise the extrusion and protrusion button is disabled

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by

                    can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

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                    • MrOppipundefined
                      MrOppip @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                      can you tell us step by step how you are trying to extrude? every button you press, every command you issue.

                      first method:
                      power on duet
                      home all
                      activated heater
                      heated 200 °
                      in "extruder control" pressed extrude
                      then retract.

                      second method:
                      power on duet
                      activated heater
                      in "gcode console" given command M302 P1
                      then G1 E50
                      then G1 E-50

                      nothing moves

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        can you verify with a multimeter that the phases on the extruder stepper are correct.
                        i.e. one phase for red and blue and one for green and black.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @MrOppip
                          last edited by

                          @MrOppip

                          I don't see where you selected the tool.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • MrOppipundefined
                            MrOppip @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt
                            activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                            @Veti
                            yes is the first thing I checked to run it correctly.
                            I found that my hardware is perfect because I loaded the Creality Ender 3 Pro predefined configuration from the RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool and the extruder works.

                            so there's something in myFW that doesn't make the extruder go.

                            I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                            does it interfere in any way?

                            in the meantime, thanks for the support

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @MrOppip
                              last edited by

                              @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                              @fcwilt
                              activated the heater means the same as selected the tool.

                              Hmm...

                              I cannot check right now but I'm pretty sure a tool can have it's heater in the standby state without the tool being active.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                @MrOppip said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                I have the BLTouch, connected to the heater 3 (disabled as in the tutorials).
                                does it interfere in any way?

                                its shouldnt, but its an easy check. comment the line and try it.

                                do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                please post the config where it was working.

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                                • MrOppipundefined
                                  MrOppip @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                  do you have a config-overwrite? because you have a M501 in your config.

                                  I'm not sure if it's useful. I had enabled it along with the ability to save the print in the event of a blackout.

                                  please post the config where it was working.

                                  config Ender.g

                                  checking it I saw that:
                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0

                                  in my CR10 file config D0 is not there.

                                  I don't know why the online configurator doesn't create it.

                                  can it be the cause? I haven't had time to try yet.

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    yes
                                    If there is no 'D' field the tool has no drives.

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                                    • MrOppipundefined
                                      MrOppip @Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Veti said in XYZ carriage rise without reason:

                                      yes
                                      If there is no 'D' field the tool has no drives.

                                      ok! sorry for the delay but I checked only now.
                                      the problem was just that "D" missing.
                                      now everything works as it should.

                                      Thanks for your help.

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