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    Dani111
    last edited by 20 Nov 2019, 10:12

    Hi. I need a little help from experienced people.
    I want to control a Peltier element with a microcontroller,
    with PWM. May? The peltier element has the following parameters:
    Imax=8.5 A, Vmax=15.4V.Ok... I have a 12 volt source,17A for example.

    How can i design the circuit so that i can control the peltier element?

    A link to the peltier element data sheet is:
    https://eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/433/Wakefield_Vette_Thermoelectric_Cooler_Full_Data_Sh-1501217.pdf

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      A Former User
      last edited by 20 Nov 2019, 10:44

      if you only need to control heating or cooling you can use the bed output, or external mosfet.

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        Dani111
        last edited by 20 Nov 2019, 11:31

        I'm using this schematic, but it's not okay. I'm not sure which series of transistors to choose and i need help for that
        peeel.PNG

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          zapta @Dani111
          last edited by zapta 20 Nov 2019, 15:50

          @Dani111 said in Circuit-design Peltier Element:

          I'm using this schematic, but it's not okay.

          A few questions

          1. Do you know for sure that Peltiers respond well to PWM?

          2. What voltage do you apply at the PWM input? (5V? 3.3V?)

          3. Can you explain why the circuit is not OK?

          4. Do you know what PWM frequency you use?

          You can test the circuit with a voltmeter. Apply input voltage (e.g. 3.3V) at PWM and verify that the voltage across the Peltier is 0V. Then apply 0V at the PWM input and verify that the voltage across the Peltier is 12V.

          Also, be aware that this is a negating circuit so PWM of 100% will result in 0% power and vice versa.

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            Dani111
            last edited by 21 Nov 2019, 13:19

            I forgot to mention, my peltier is TEC-40-33-127. I apply at the PWM input 3.3V and i think my circuit is not ok because the launchpad (MSP430FR4133) "scream".

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              zapta
              last edited by 21 Nov 2019, 16:25

              @Dani111 said in Circuit-design Peltier Element:

              i think my circuit is not ok because the launchpad (MSP430FR4133) "scream".

              I see. Screaming launchpads is beyond my limited knowledge in electronics.

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                DaBit
                last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 12:35

                Your schematic should work for low PWM frequencies, your 'screaming', whatever that might be, is probably caused by a wiring error. Are you sure you connected the GND's of the 12V supply and the uC board together?

                Other than that the circuit is suboptimal; it takes R3 a long time to charge the gate of M1 which increases dissipation. Replacing R1/R2/R3/Q1 with something like a TC4427 would be a better solution.

                Regarding PWMming TEC's: you can do that as long as you keep the PWM frequency above 1kHz or so. If you PWM with a low frequency there is too much stress on the thermocouple joints due to them thermally expanding and contracting many times a second.

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