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    • MJCTundefined
      MJCT @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt

      @fcwilt said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

      Is the pin dropping when you issue a G30 command? The probe has to touch the bed and retract for the motion to be halted.
      Frederick

      Yes, sent G30 command, the probe deplyed, bed moved up until it touched the probe than stoped.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @MJCT
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        @MJCT said in [Nozzle gets smashed against

        Yes, sent G30 command, the probe deplyed, bed moved up until it touched the probe than stoped.

        OK then at point what is the displayed Z position? Does it appear to be accurate?

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • MJCTundefined
          MJCT
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          Where do I find "config-override.g " file, maybe is because of that. Maybe it always overrides my new imputes.

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @MJCT
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            @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

            Where do I find "config-override.g " file, maybe is because of that. Maybe it always overrides my new imputes.

            If it exists it is right there next to config.g.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • MJCTundefined
              MJCT @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt

              @fcwilt said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

              If it exists it is right there next to config.g.

              Well, to me, it never existed. Still it appears at the wiki

              “9. Open config-override.g and check that there are no G31 commands in it. If you find any, delete those lines and save the file.”

              And it’s not the first time that I see the wiki page referring to it, and that’s why I don’t trust wiki

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @MJCT
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                @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                Where do I find "config-override.g " file, maybe is because of that. Maybe it always overrides my new imputes.

                You don't have M501 (read stored parameters) in your config.g, so it won't be loading config-override.g (which is usually in the sys folder, where config.g is). You'll only have a config-override.g if you have sent an M500 to store

                How old is your BL Touch? I have heard that after a while they can get 'sticky', with the pin not deploying fully, and giving variable results. I believe you can take them apart and give them a clean.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • MJCTundefined
                  MJCT
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                  I think I found the reason why I never see a config-override file...

                  *****“dc42 ADMINISTRATORS 10 Jun 2017, 23:18

                  If you created your config.g file using configtool, you will have selected whether or not config-override.g is processed.”*****

                  When I did my config with the config toll I didn’t select the “Read config-override.g file at end of startup process” box at “General”.
                  One doubt less, but still doesn’t solve my problem

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @MJCT
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                    @MJCT

                    The file config-override is created if you have executed a M500 command.

                    I don't have one as created it to have access to the two line of code that were generated by heater tuning.

                    I copied those lines into config.g and deleted config-override.g

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • MJCTundefined
                      MJCT
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                      My BL is new. Version 3.1, the pin deploys fully and the results are consistent.

                      The problem seems to be that the values that I impute are not taken in to account and the real distance from the nozzle to the bed doesn’t correspond to the distance displayed at the Dashboard for the Z (dashboard always displays a positive value, say 2mm, when the nozzle is already touching the bed).

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt
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                        Hi,

                        After you do a single G30 does the reported value seem to be correct? Does the gap between nozzle and bed seem to match the reported value?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • MJCTundefined
                          MJCT @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt ~

                          Nop, last 2 times that that I sent G30 the nozzle smashed the bed

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @MJCT
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                            @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                            @fcwilt ~

                            Nop, last 2 times that that I sent G30 the nozzle smashed the bed

                            When that happened did the pin drop down at the start?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • MJCTundefined
                              MJCT @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt
                              Yes

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @MJCT
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                                @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                                @fcwilt
                                Yes

                                Did the pin retract when it touched the bed?

                                It's possible you have an intermittent connection in the wires that carry the signal from the probe back to the Duet.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • MJCTundefined
                                  MJCT @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt
                                  Yes, the pin retract when it touches the bed

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                                    fcwilt @MJCT
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                                    @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                                    @fcwilt
                                    Yes, the pin retract when it touches the bed

                                    But the motion did not stop?

                                    When the pin is in the down position how far below the nozzle does it extend?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • MJCTundefined
                                      MJCT
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                                      My last test returned this value
                                      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EH_a5huQdowrXaahItpsKx0ADAuLq9RX/view?usp=sharing

                                      should I input

                                      G31 P25 X25 Y0 Z0.229

                                      or

                                      G31 P25 X25 Y0 Z2.29 ?

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                                      • MJCTundefined
                                        MJCT @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt

                                        @fcwilt said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                                        But the motion did not stop?
                                        When the pin is in the down position how far below the nozzle does it extend?

                                        Yes the motion stoped.
                                        The pin gets +- 3.3mm below the nozle

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @MJCT
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                                          @MJCT said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                                          @fcwilt

                                          @fcwilt said in Nozzle gets smashed against the bed:

                                          But the motion did not stop?
                                          When the pin is in the down position how far below the nozzle does it extend?

                                          Yes the motion stoped.
                                          The pin gets +- 3.3mm below the nozle

                                          Well if the motion stopped how did the nozzle hit the bed?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt
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                                            And you enter the value just as displayed.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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