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    • supernovaeundefined
      supernovae
      last edited by supernovae

      Here is my gcode for stepping, steps per mm and speeds. I can try a lower probing speed - off to experiment

      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X160 Y160 Z400 E837 ; Set steps per mm - set to 837
      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z250 E2600 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) (jerk)
      M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z250.00 E3600 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X600 Y600 Z80 E3000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z900.00 E900 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      .9 degree steppers on X/Y
      1.8 on Z (dual z)

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Your settings look very reasonable for the Z axis and probe.

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        • supernovaeundefined
          supernovae
          last edited by

          So I enabled the multiple checks per point if the variation is greater than .03 and one time it never finished checking the level. I haven’t had too much time to test more but I made sure the bltouch was secure, straight and moved it up a tad higher so there was more room in case it was too close to bed but still seeing the same symptoms.

          Slowed z way down too to make sure bed wasn’t moving quicker than the bltouch could reset and also set a delay between each probe

          I’ll run another 30 test and report back

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @supernovae
            last edited by

            @supernovae perhaps time to clean the pin.

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            • jens55undefined
              jens55
              last edited by

              Do you actually mean 0.03 or did you mean to say 0.003?
              I had to set my BLTouch to 0.005 to get the probing to finish (up from 0.003) but then it worked fine. 0.03 (rather than 0.003) is pretty bad ....

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              • supernovaeundefined
                supernovae
                last edited by

                yeah, .003 - sorry, I was typing on my phone (i dunno how people do that all the time.. give me a keyboard!! lol)

                i'll try cleaning the pin. I just switched to PEI build on my glass and stopped using glu-stick - maybe there is some residue on pin.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @supernovae
                  last edited by

                  @supernovae said in Advice to fix BLtouch drift?:

                  maybe there is some residue on pin.

                  I find wisps of filament start to gather on the pin sometimes.

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                  • supernovaeundefined
                    supernovae
                    last edited by

                    This is what i get now that I try and have it set to A5

                    G28 Z
                    Warning: Z probe readings not consistent

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                    • supernovaeundefined
                      supernovae @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux said in Advice to fix BLtouch drift?:

                      @supernovae perhaps time to clean the pin.

                      is there a way to safely remove & clean pin or just have it deployed and gently clean it deployed?

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                      • percarundefined
                        percar
                        last edited by

                        First lets look at the realistic results that the printer is able to produce
                        Your z axis has a resolution of 250 steps per 1mm that equates to a resolution of .0025mm now also remember that this is in micro steps which is not really all that accurate chances are the best resolution that you could achieve would be .003mm. BL touch also has a best case repeatability of .01 and actually if you read their documentation it mentions .05 mm. If you are getting better than this it is a bonus. If you are getting resolution better than this think of it as a bonus.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @supernovae
                          last edited by

                          @supernovae said in Advice to fix BLtouch drift?:

                          @Phaedrux said in Advice to fix BLtouch drift?:

                          @supernovae perhaps time to clean the pin.

                          is there a way to safely remove & clean pin or just have it deployed and gently clean it deployed?

                          There is a set screw at the top of the probe. You remove that and the pin will come out the top. The set screw is also how the trigger distance for the electromagnet is set.

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                          • supernovaeundefined
                            supernovae @percar
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                            @percar said in Advice to fix BLtouch drift?:

                            First lets look at the realistic results that the printer is able to produce
                            Your z axis has a resolution of 250 steps per 1mm that equates to a resolution of .0025mm now also remember that this is in micro steps which is not really all that accurate chances are the best resolution that you could achieve would be .003mm. BL touch also has a best case repeatability of .01 and actually if you read their documentation it mentions .05 mm. If you are getting better than this it is a bonus. If you are getting resolution better than this think of it as a bonus.

                            I'd be OK getting a reading that was +/- within some margin of error range, but the fact my variance keeps drifting further and further suggests something else. I'd expect my G32 bed probe heights to report more random distributions within the margin of error rather than going from 0.032 to .240 probing the same spot

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                            • supernovaeundefined
                              supernovae
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                              The really odd thing is, if i turn off, and not change anything and power back on, the first read is the same - every time... working on cleaning the bltouch tip to make sure its not friction causing height change

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                              • supernovaeundefined
                                supernovae
                                last edited by

                                Found out my problem. I noticed one side of my printer was always sagging towards end of print, ran motor unlock and i could rotate left z and feel steps, but right z just spun - i guess my right z motor had failed.

                                Replaced my right z motor, and now bltouch is happy and i don't have to run g29 between each print... kind of surprised i got the quality i did with that motor having been bad or faulty for so long...

                                but, i'm back in business... no more crazy drift, nice level bed and great prints again. took the time to move to reprap3 firmware and enjoy it too!

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