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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Glad it's sorted.

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      • BlueDustundefined
        BlueDust @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux

        I think I met you at MRRF 2019.
        If your at MRRF 2020, I would like to thank you in person. This problem really ruined a lot of prints.

        Thanks again!

        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @BlueDust
          last edited by

          @BlueDust said in Duet Stops mid print:

          I think I met you at MRRF 2019.

          Yup that was me at the Duet booth. I remember you. MRRF was a lot of fun. Would be great to go again.

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          • BlueDustundefined
            BlueDust @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @Phaedrux

            So.. I haven't been able to actually test this properly, but it used to be if I enabled the magnetic filament sensor after a print started, it would stop the print for lack of movement.
            I would have to pause the print, start the filament sensor, and resume the print. Sometimes it would still pause right before the measurements came in, but that wasn't as often.
            I started an 8+ hr print with copper filament. I would hate to waste/lose this filament so enabled the Magnetic Filament monitor, but after I started the print (forgot) and it didn't stop the print. I will make sure to test this again to confirm this wasn't a one off fluke, but am now thinking that these Hiccups may have been the cause of most of the abnormal issues/behavior I have been having. Many of which I have asked for help here, on this forum.

            Thanks again!

            Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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            • NitroFreakundefined
              NitroFreak
              last edited by NitroFreak

              I had the same issue. Even started a thread on it i think, but it never got resolved. My suspicion was s3d , after i switched to cura i never had that problem again. After i tried s3d again for a specific print and it happened again, i just wrote it off on s3d being weird.
              I however had set x16 microstepping with interpolation everywhere, so i doubt it came from that.

              Edit: Here is the link to my thread with the same issue;
              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/11886/duet-just-stopping-mid-print/8

              I only had it with s3d and printing thin walled things, the first were lithophanes and the second were some engine covers, all about 2-3mm thick in the xy direction

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              • BlueDustundefined
                BlueDust @NitroFreak
                last edited by BlueDust

                @NitroFreak

                Did you see the M122 you posted shows crazy high Hiccups too?

                Hiccups: 10265739

                Your hiccups may not have been caused by the same reason as mine, but that may be the problem. I only use S3d or Canvas when I paint a model. I don't remember if I tried using Canvas or not and saw this issue...

                I no longer have any Hiccups on my Duet2.

                Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @NitroFreak
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                  @NitroFreak I can't believe I missed the hiccup count in your m122 in that thread.

                  I suspect that the junky gcode generated by s3d was the cause. When doing things walled objects it inserts a ton of tiny moves (as I pointed out in that thread) to try and print a line thinner than usual. On a slow 8bit marlin board maybe it all gets glossed over by quad stepping. But the duet dutifully tries to execute every single move and gets overwhelmed?

                  Curse thinwall performance isn't great either. Instead of tiny extrude moves it sometimes tries to use tiny zigzag fill which shakes the hell out of the machine.

                  Slic3r and (prusaslicer by extension) is the only slicer I've seen that does a decent job of thin walls since it will allow for a variable thickness single line when appropriate rather than trying to vainly enforce a double wall.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @BlueDust
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                    @BlueDust said in Duet Stops mid print:

                    Canvas

                    I believe canvas is based on Kisslicer

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                    • Danalundefined
                      Danal
                      last edited by Danal

                      S3D and thinwall:

                      Interestingly enough, the guys that are making STLs for printing Radio-Control Model Airplanes that fly are very oriented toward S3d. These things print single layer, with their own single layer ribs for structure (no infill). It is quite different from most of the printing that we all do... a unique capability for the printer and unique skill for the human operator.

                      I do believe they lean toward S3D because of Factory Files, not for anything in the actual slicing. Many MANY parameters must be exactly right, even the orientation on the print stage, to print piece X, and it is often different for different pieces. S3D's factory files encompass all of that. Most slicers do not (or did not about four years ago when these guys got really serious about this) have a way of keeping all that in sync quite as well.

                      So, no real point to this post in terms of solving anything. Just sort of an FYI on thinwall printing. And, for the record, I still more-or-less dislike S3D.

                      www.3dlabprint.com

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @Danal
                        last edited by

                        @Danal said in Duet Stops mid print:

                        MANY parameters must be exactly right

                        Like wall thickness not being less than nozzle width?

                        Re factory files, thank goodness the industry appears to have settled on .3MF finally.

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                        • Danalundefined
                          Danal
                          last edited by Danal

                          One wall, right at, or slightly less than, nozzle. Also printed somewhat hot as compared to most printing, so 'current' extrusion melts into 'prior' layer a little bit. PLA at 230 or 240, things like that.

                          Here's my latest. Extra 550, modeled at 74" wingspan. Plane is about as big as I am. Baseball cap for scale. Haven't flown it yet.

                          IMG_0851E.jpg

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                          • Fedekossel1undefined
                            Fedekossel1
                            last edited by

                            Have you somehow solved this problem of blocking?, I can not so fix this problem..

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                            • BlueDustundefined
                              BlueDust @Fedekossel1
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                              @Fedekossel1
                              Yes, it was resolved.
                              Run M122 and share your report. That would be the easiest way to tell if you are having the same problem we had.

                              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                              • Fedekossel1undefined
                                Fedekossel1 @BlueDust
                                last edited by Fedekossel1

                                @BlueDust
                                I tried to contact you on twitter, I ran all the procedures you listed, but I couldn't fix

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                                • Fedekossel1undefined
                                  Fedekossel1
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                                  M122
                                  === Diagnostics ===
                                  RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                  Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3SW-6J9FD-3SN6M-TVSZG
                                  Used output buffers: 1 of 24 (15 max)
                                  === RTOS ===
                                  Static ram: 25712
                                  Dynamic ram: 92620 of which 380 recycled
                                  Exception stack ram used: 448
                                  Never used ram: 11912
                                  Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,348) IDLE(ready,160)
                                  Owned mutexes:
                                  === Platform ===
                                  Last reset 00:14:21 ago, cause: power up
                                  Last software reset at 2020-03-08 12:35, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11896 bytes (slot 3)
                                  Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                                  Error status: 10
                                  Free file entries: 9
                                  SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                  SD card longest block write time: 235.7ms, max retries 0
                                  MCU temperature: min 44.3, current 53.0, max 53.2
                                  Supply voltage: min 24.5, current 24.7, max 24.8, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                  Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/99
                                  Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/97
                                  Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max 0/103
                                  Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                                  Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                  Date/time: 2020-03-08 13:26:45
                                  Cache data hit count 2063208117
                                  Slowest loop: 1256.78ms; fastest: 0.07ms
                                  I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                  === Move ===
                                  Hiccups: 363416, FreeDm: 90, MinFreeDm: 84, MaxWait: 306358ms
                                  Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                  === DDARing ===
                                  Scheduled moves: 2350, completed moves: 2310, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 1
                                  === Heat ===
                                  Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                  Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                                  Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.3
                                  === GCodes ===
                                  Segments left: 1
                                  Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                                  Movement lock held by null
                                  http is idle in state(s) 0
                                  telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                  file is doing "G1 X-23.857 Y19.214 E0.0409" in state(s) 0
                                  serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                  aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                  daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                  queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                  autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                  Code queue is empty.
                                  === Network ===
                                  Slowest loop: 1257.00ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                                  Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                                  HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                  • WiFi -
                                    Network state is running
                                    WiFi module is connected to access point
                                    Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                                    WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                    WiFi MAC address ec:fa:bc:31:7e:cd
                                    WiFi Vcc 3.37, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                                    WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23296
                                    WiFi IP address 192.168.43.42
                                    WiFi signal strength -50dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                    Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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                                  • Fedekossel1undefined
                                    Fedekossel1
                                    last edited by

                                    How did you solve it? I also had microsteps at 256, I took them to 16 interpolated to 256, nothing changed, I also formatted the sd and did tests with other 3 sd, it never solved

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Fedekossel1
                                      last edited by Phaedrux

                                      @Fedekossel1 said in Duet Stops mid print:

                                      === Move ===
                                      Hiccups: 363416

                                      The hiccup count could be the issue. Using x256 microstepping and having moves faster than the step rate can handle is usually the cause. Using x16 microstepping with interpolation enabled is the solution.

                                      I suggest you start a new thread with your issue. Include your config.g and your M122 output as well.

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                                      • BlueDustundefined
                                        BlueDust @Fedekossel1
                                        last edited by

                                        @Fedekossel1
                                        It appears you may have the same problem as I did with Hiccups and using 256 microstepping.
                                        @Phaedrux helped me fix it. I would follow his advice to help you too.

                                        Good luck!

                                        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                        • BlueDustundefined
                                          BlueDust @Fedekossel1
                                          last edited by BlueDust

                                          @Fedekossel1
                                          My Twitter name does not have anything to do with BlueDust as it was already taken. Not sure who you reached out to.

                                          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                          • Fedekossel1undefined
                                            Fedekossel1
                                            last edited by

                                            I put microsteps at 16 interpolation 256, it still gives me the same problem

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