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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @akisjon
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      @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

      M558 P9 Z1 H5 A10 F160 T5000

      The Z1 is deprecated, so remove that.

      G31 P80 X25 Y50 Z0.2

      The recommended P value for the BLTouch is P25.

      Your Z trigger height is very low. When the BLTouch is mounted as described in the Antclabs instructions the base of the probe body should be 8mm above the nozzle tip. This results in a trigger height of ~2mm.

      Not that any of that would solve the tilt in your bed.

      You say you have 3 lead screws now with 3 motors? Are you doing automatic leveling?

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

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      • akisjonundefined
        akisjon @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux said in mesh grid compensation:

        You say you have 3 lead screws now with 3 motors? Are you doing automatic leveling?

        3 lead screws and 1 motor

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @akisjon
          last edited by

          @akisjon Have you leveled the bed frame on the lead screws before belting them together? Does your bed have it's own leveling adjustments?

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          • akisjonundefined
            akisjon @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux said in mesh grid compensation:

            Have you leveled the bed frame on the lead screws before belting them together? Does your bed have it's own leveling adjustments?

            no it does not have its own screws on the bed but i think this effect is not a crooked bed . does it have to do with the settings? ,Before i tying them to the strap, i ll check each one with the fixed points of the printer

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @akisjon
              last edited by

              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

              i think this effect is not a crooked bed

              I think that's exactly what you have. The display exaggerates the amount of tilt. The difference is only 2.5mm from low point to high point. You should be able to verify that by moving the nozzle around the bed with and without mesh compensation active.

              How do you plan to level the bed if you don't have adjustment screws for the bed surface and only 1 motor with 3 lead screws?

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              • akisjonundefined
                akisjon
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                @Phaedrux said in mesh grid compensation:

                You should be able to verify that by moving the nozzle around the bed with and without mesh compensation active.

                as you will understand i'm pretty much unrelated to this guy tell me how to do it? will i just click disable bed compension....and then ? as far as screws i'll put them back on, i had them removed to put spacers

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  G29 will run a mesh probing routine.
                  G29 S1 will load the saved heightmap and enable mesh compensation.
                  G29 S2 will disable mesh compensation.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G29_Mesh_bed_probe

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                  • akisjonundefined
                    akisjon @Phaedrux
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                    hello and good year everyone i came again with many corrections but that i dont know how to fix it will help me?
                    Capture1.PNG Capture.PNG
                    is she still out of bed?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @akisjon
                      last edited by

                      @akisjon That would appear to be sag in the X gantry. No amount of bed leveling will fix that. But mesh compensation should be able to correct for it.

                      The question is, does the mesh compensation correct for it correctly or not?

                      You can test with an STL like this to verify your first layer across the bed surface quickly.

                      bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

                      Print it twice, once without mesh compensation, and once with.

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                      • akisjonundefined
                        akisjon @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux In a strange case it prints in both cases but better print when the bed compensation is disable . is it possible?

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Can you post your current config.g and homing files?

                          Did you incorporate the changes mentioned earlier in the thread?

                          You may need to do a more detailed mesh with more points.

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                          • akisjonundefined
                            akisjon
                            last edited by

                            config.g
                            ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 2.03)
                            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.5 on Sun Oct 27 2019 13:47:05 GMT+0200 (Χειμερινή ώρα Ανατολικής Ευρώπης)

                            ; General preferences
                            G21 ; Work in millimetres
                            G90
                            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                            M669 K1 ; Select CoreXY mode
                            M550 P"Hypercube Evo" ; set printer name

                            ; Network
                            M552 S1 ; enable network
                            M552 P192.168.1.69 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
                            M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
                            M554 P192.168.1.1 ; Set gateway
                            M587 S"COSMOTE-483A22" P"" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connec; enable network
                            M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                            M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                            M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                            ; Drives
                            M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                            M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                            M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards Z
                            M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                            M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                            M350 X256 Y256 Z256 E256 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                            M92 X1280 Y1280 Z6400 E6500 ; set steps per mm
                            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z290 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z400.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                            M376 H0.591
                            ;M671 X0:0 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis

                            ; Axis Limits
                            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                            M208 X440 Y460 Z900 S0 ; set axis maxima

                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; set active high endstops

                            ; Z-Probe
                            M574 Z1 S2 ; set endstops controlled by probe
                            M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                            M558 P9 H4 A6 F120 T4000 R0.2 ;S0.004 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P25 X25 Y35 Z3.930 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            M557 X50:430 Y100:420 S80 ; define mesh grid

                            ; Heaters
                            M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                            M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                            M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                            M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                            ; Fans
                            M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                            ; Tools
                            M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                            ; Custom settings are not defined

                            ; Miscellaneous
                            M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                            T0 ; select first
                            ;M290 S-0.330

                            homeall
                            ; homeall.g
                            ; called to home all axes
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.5 on Sun Oct 27 2019 13:47:05 GMT+0200 (Χειμερινή ώρα Ανατολικής Ευρώπης)

                            G91
                            M280 P3 S160 I1 ; Alarm Release and Push-Pin UP just in case it's in alarm and deployed
                            ;M402 ; Retract probe just in case it's down
                            M564 H0
                            G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 S1 X-480 F4000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 S1 Y-480 F4000
                            G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                            G1 S1 X-480 F360
                            G1 S1 Y-480 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X220 Y220 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed
                            ;G29 S1

                            homex
                            ; called to home the X axis
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.5 on Sun Oct 27 2019 13:47:05 GMT+0200 (Χειμερινή ώρα Ανατολικής Ευρώπης)
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 S1 X-485 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                            G1 S1 X-485 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                            G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                            G90 ; absolute positioning

                            homey
                            ; homey.g
                            ; called to home the Y axis
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.5 on Sun Oct 27 2019 13:47:05 GMT+0200 (Χειμερινή ώρα Ανατολικής Ευρώπης)
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 S1 Y-485 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                            G1 S1 Y-485 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                            G1 Z-5 F6000 S2 ; lower Z again
                            G90 ; absolute positioning

                            homez
                            ; homez.g
                            ; called to home the Z axis
                            ;
                            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.0.5 on Sun Oct 27 2019 13:47:05 GMT+0200 (Χειμερινή ώρα Ανατολικής Ευρώπης)
                            M280 P3 S160 I1 ; Alarm Release and Push-Pin UP just in case it's in alarm and deployed
                            M402 ; Retract probe just in case it's down
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 Z5 F6000 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X210 Y210 F6000; Move x and Y axis over to bed center so probe is on top of bed
                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @akisjon
                              last edited by

                              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

                              M350 X256 Y256 Z256 E256 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

                              Best to use x16 microstepping interpolated to 256 by the driver. Using x256 on all axis will lead to problems and offers no real benefit.

                              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

                              M376 H0.591

                              Your bed taper is set exceedingly low. This could be causing the problems you describe.

                              it is recommended that the taper height be set to at least 20x the maximum error in the height map, so that the maximum amount of the resulting over- or under- extrusion is limited to 5%.

                              Based on your max deviation of 0.6 your taper should be at least 12mm.

                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation#Section_Compensation_Taper

                              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

                              M557 X50:430 Y100:420 S80 ; define mesh grid

                              Try S40 to increase your mesh resolution.

                              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

                              M564 H0

                              This is not needed since your Z moves in your homing files are using the S2 parameter already.

                              @akisjon said in mesh grid compensation:

                              G1 X220 Y220 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                              G1 X210 Y210 F6000; Move x and Y axis over to bed center so probe is on top of bed

                              The probe points in homeall and homez do not match.

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                              • akisjonundefined
                                akisjon @Phaedrux
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                                @Phaedrux thank you very much for your quick answers i will try tomorrow

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                                • akisjonundefined
                                  akisjon @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux So i do all of the changes you suggested and that is the best effect. impresses me is a curve in the back of the bed, do you know what can come from it?
                                  Capture.PNG

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    The best way to interpret the heightmap visualization is to compare it to an actual print test to see if errors are true to reality and that the correction is being applied successfully.

                                    bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

                                    If you print this test twice, once with mesh compensation active, and again with it deactivated, you should be able to tell if things are working properly.

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