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    DIY-O-Sphere @lodger
    last edited by 15 Jan 2020, 21:43

    @lodger said in 3.01Beta Thermister Settings:

    R:2200.0

    Is it a Maestro?

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      lodger
      last edited by 15 Jan 2020, 22:01

      Yep good guess

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        DIY-O-Sphere @lodger
        last edited by DIY-O-Sphere 15 Jan 2020, 22:21

        @lodger
        My values for H1 are equal. I have no deviation to room temp.

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          Veti @lodger
          last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 06:37

          @lodger said in 3.01Beta Thermister Settings:

          Both my hot end (e3d)

          are you sure its a genuine e3d. clones do not use the same thermistor

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            jens55
            last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 06:46

            Wouldn't it make sense to measure the actual resistance of the sensor and use that figure ? There is nothing magic about 100000.
            BTW, I had issues with my high temperatures being out by about ten degrees, I decided to just change my beta so I got the right temperature (I have an independent temperature gauge that is my reference)

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              lodger @Veti
              last edited by lodger 16 Jan 2020, 07:55

              @Veti Yes she is a hemera so deffo genuine . I will take my fluke home from work and measure the resistance.
              I used the setting from RFF 2 which have worked fine..

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                dc42 administrators @lodger
                last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 07:59

                @lodger said in 3.01Beta Thermister Settings:

                Hi DC ,

                Thanks for the reply

                Sensor 1 type Thermistor using pin e0temp, reading 36.0, last error: sensor not ready, T:100000.0 B:4725.0 C:7.06e-8 R:2200.0

                Sensor 0 type Thermistor using pin bedtemp, reading 35.0, last error: sensor not ready, T:100000.0 B:4138.0 C:0.00e+0 R:2200.0

                Its about 23c in here at the MO.

                Thanks

                Paul

                Those look correct for a Maestro.

                Were you previously using different firmware, and were the readings OK then?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  droftarts administrators
                  last edited by droftarts 16 Jan 2020, 12:46

                  @lodger I've tested this on my Maestro:
                  Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro 3.01-beta1+1 (2020-01-15b2)
                  In config.g: M308 S1 P”e1_temp” Y”thermistor” T100000 B4138 R2200
                  M308 S1: Sensor 1 type Thermistor using pin e1temp, reading 16.7, last error: success, T:100000.0 B:4138.0 C:0.00e+0 R:2200.0

                  In config.g: M308 S1 P”e1_temp” Y”thermistor” T100000 B4138
                  M308 S1: Sensor 1 type Thermistor using pin e1temp, reading 17.2, last error: success, T:100000.0 B:4138.0 C:0.00e+0 R:2200.0

                  So I'm not seeing an error here. RRF3 identifies the board as a Maestro, and sets R2200 itself. This is the value of the series resistor, which is part of the temperature sensing circuit. It's usually 4K7 ohms on Duet Wifi, and 2K2 ohms on Maestro. Your config.g doesn't have R2200 on the end of the M308 command. Sending M308 S1 P”e0temp” Y”thermistor” T100000 B4092 R2200 to a Duet 2 Wifi takes the temperature from 18C to 34C, which is pretty much what you're seeing.

                  Our theory is that you have a Maestro board with 4K7 series resistor. Try sending:
                  M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" B4138 C0 R4700
                  M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700

                  What temperature does that report? If it's accurate, it probably means you have a cloned Maestro board with incorrect series resistor.

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    droftarts administrators
                    last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 15:12

                    @lodger You can also check visually what series resistors are on the board, by reading the printing on the resistors. They are R21, R19, R35, R15.

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      lodger @droftarts
                      last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 15:59

                      @droftarts

                      Hi Ian .

                      Thanks for the help, I will have a look when i finnish work in a hour or so. I am prity sure I had R2200 in my 2.05 Config file .after all i only edited it to get my new 3.01 config . Again i will have a play later .

                      Thanks all for the help..

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                        lodger @droftarts
                        last edited by 16 Jan 2020, 16:05

                        @droftarts
                        Ian
                        Just for info all 3 of my mastros was brought direct from yourselfs and are deffo not clones.....

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                          lodger
                          last edited by 22 Jan 2020, 15:21

                          Sorry for the late reply been busy....

                          I final got round to having a look . But when i powered up the printer she was reading the correct temps.
                          I dont know what i was doing wrong and i have not changed anything but she is working fine again..

                          So Big tnaks for every one help

                          Paul

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