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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @oozeBot
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      @gfisher yeah, telegram bot is my main monitoring solution for many things, including 3d printing .. now I'm sure when duet3 becomes common the plugins will start to come, just like they did for octoprint..

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      • gtj0undefined
        gtj0 @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

        @gfisher said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

        Plus I can fully utilize my PanelDue.

        This is actually proving to be a sticking point for me as well. A HDMI touchscreen with fill DWC is honestly more than I need or want for at the printer controls. I've gotten used to the PanelDue layout and have a lot of macros that are suited for the screen. For this reason I'm thinking of running standalone for the time being.

        Eventually the SBC will have some plugins and features that might change that however.

        I should have a version of DueUI for the SBC/DSF ready for testing on Monday if you're interested. It's been working great on my HDMI touchscreen.

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        • zaptaundefined
          zapta
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          Is there a plan to have a Duet3 with Wifi?

          Also, does the ethernet connection provide significantly faster file transfer than the wifi of the Duet2? (my duet2 wifi file transfer is slow in general).

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @zapta
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            @zapta said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

            Is there a plan to have a Duet3 with Wifi?

            We don't plan to do a WiFi version of the existing Duet 3. We plan to refresh the Duet 2 range later this year, but we haven't decided what to call it yet.

            Also, does the ethernet connection provide significantly faster file transfer than the wifi of the Duet2? (my duet2 wifi file transfer is slow in general).

            In my office, with good WiFi signal strength, I get around 800kbytes/sec to both Duet WiFi and Duet Ethernet, if CRC checking is disabled.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • oozeBotundefined
              oozeBot @dc42
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              @dc42 so what is keeping the PanelDue from reading the list of macros and jobs on the RPi’s SD card? If I modify HomeX on the RPi to play a sound and then press HomeX on the PanelDue, it plays that sound- meaning it is calling the copy on the RPi.. the same should be possible for macros and jobs.

              If this could be accomplished, I think the PaenlDue would become much more useful for the new generation of Duet 3.. please consider looking into this.

              Thank you, Gabe

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
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                Hmm. Another idea, if you put on the PanelDue SD card macros that only contain one line ala M98 Pmacro1.gcode I'm guessing the Duet would execute macro1.gcode stored on the SD card in the Raspberry Pi?

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                • oozeBotundefined
                  oozeBot @A Former User
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                  @bearer I'll test this when I run home for lunch today and report back..

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @oozeBot
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                    @gfisher said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                    @dc42 so what is keeping the PanelDue from reading the list of macros and jobs on the RPi’s SD card? If I modify HomeX on the RPi to play a sound and then press HomeX on the PanelDue, it plays that sound- meaning it is calling the copy on the RPi.. the same should be possible for macros and jobs.

                    If this could be accomplished, I think the PaenlDue would become much more useful for the new generation of Duet 3.. please consider looking into this.

                    It's because currently, when RRF receives file-related commands (e.g. M20), it has no way of getting the required information from the Pi, only from the local SD card.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • spllgundefined
                      spllg @dc42
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                      @dc42 >it's because ..< - is this the reason for cancel.g not being called when a print is cancelled?

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @spllg
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                        @spllg said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                        @dc42 >it's because ..< - is this the reason for cancel.g not being called when a print is cancelled?

                        is cancel.g run if you execute M1 instead of using the paneldue?

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @A Former User
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                          @bearer said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                          @spllg said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                          @dc42 >it's because ..< - is this the reason for cancel.g not being called when a print is cancelled?

                          is cancel.g run if you execute M1 instead of using the paneldue?

                          cancel.g is run if you pause a print (M25) and then send M0 to cancel it. If you cancel it from PanelDue, the RPi doesn't know to run cancel.g from the RPi SD image. My guess is that will will try to run cancel.g from the SD card.

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                          • oozeBotundefined
                            oozeBot
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                            I created a macro on the Duet SD card containing the single command: "M98 Ptest.gcode". Then, from the GUI running on my RPi, I created a macro named test.gcode that played a tune. Running the macro from the PanelDue successfully called the macro on the RPi! To verify, I modified the macro on the RPi and ran again - it picked up the changes. This is much cleaner, but still not entirely optimal..

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @oozeBot
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                              @gfisher said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                              I created a macro on the Duet SD card containing the single command: "M98 Ptest.gcode". Then, from the GUI running on my RPi, I created a macro named test.gcode that played a tune. Running the macro from the PanelDue successfully called the macro on the RPi! To verify, I modified the macro on the RPi and ran again - it picked up the changes. This is much cleaner, but still not entirely optimal..

                              M98 is one of a few file-related commands that RRF redirects to the Pi.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • spllgundefined
                                spllg @dc42
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                                @dc42 i canceled it by hitting cancel on the web interface of dwc (havn't got a dwc).

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                                • Danalundefined
                                  Danal
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                                  <Editorial comment>

                                  In my opinion/perception, this entire discussion on the Panel plugged into the Duet is an example of where the future lies: With the Pi. The "stack" of DuetSoftwareFramework and RRF clearly connects the Panel "downstream" of "where it should be" in the natural flow of the future architecture. Thus all the oddities in dealing with things that should originate on the DSF.

                                  The hours that DC42 (and others at Duet/Escher) spend "back porting" ways to make the Panel work better with a 3+Pi are taken from a fixed pool that could be advancing features, or bug fixing, or making the Pi/Touchscreen combo work better (arguably, this is mostly Chris). You get the concept.

                                  Upward/backward compatibility is good, when balanced against the advancement of a system. Clearly, I am an "only forward" kinda guy. I'd much rather see Panel have published limitations, and stop right there. Your opinion may be very different...

                                  </Editorial comment>

                                  Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @gtj0
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                                    @gtj0 said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                                    I should have a version of DueUI for the SBC/DSF ready for testing on Monday if you're interested. It's been working great on my HDMI touchscreen.

                                    I still haven't picked up an HDMI touch screen. Any recommendations?

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                                    • Danalundefined
                                      Danal
                                      last edited by Danal

                                      This one "just works". Plugs into USB and HDMI on the pi. No Pi changes needed. There are no doubt others...

                                      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TXFPHM2

                                      With default DWC, the buttons are pretty small. The following can be adjusted for your preference:

                                      sudo vi /usr/bin/launch-dwc
                                      --force-device-scale-factor=3 at the end of the line that launches chrome (only line in the file, other than header).

                                      I settled on 3. You can use fractions to your taste, like 2.5

                                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                      • gtj0undefined
                                        gtj0 @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                                        @gtj0 said in Why use a Raspberry Pi with a Duet 3?:

                                        I should have a version of DueUI for the SBC/DSF ready for testing on Monday if you're interested. It's been working great on my HDMI touchscreen.

                                        I still haven't picked up an HDMI touch screen. Any recommendations?

                                        These are the ones I use not just on the SBC but anywhere i need a small monitor.
                                        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TXP4CSY/
                                        Excellent picture quality and the touchscreen is spot on.
                                        It's native 1920x1080 but on the SBC I run it as 1280x720.

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                                        • oozeBotundefined
                                          oozeBot @dc42
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                                          @dc42 @bearer I did some more experimenting with placing macros onto the Duet's SD card. It turns out that all that is needed is an empty file that is named exactly as the macro in the RPI's macro folder.. when selecting the macros from the PanelDue, it is directly calling the copy on the RPI.

                                          I recognize the Duet would have no way of getting the required info from the RPi, but would the RPi have knowledge of the Duet's SD card? If so, I'd think it would be trivial to sideload a copy (or null file) to the Duet's SD card..

                                          One other observation is that something I've done has made the macros stop showing up on the right hand side of the Control tab of the PanelDue - they are only accessible from the Macro tab. Any thoughts?

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            I ordered this screen. Seems similar to the one Danal posted, and was reasonably priced in Canada.

                                            https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07ZH6L9L4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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