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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk
      last edited by

      @johny
      What type of thermistors are you connecting and where are you connecting them?

      Please also post your config.g file

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • johnyundefined
        johny
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        Hello,
        For the heat bed it is the standard thermistors from Chinese heat beds, for the hot end its the one: ATC Semitec 104GT-2/104NT-4-R025H42G (http://www.atcsemitec.co.uk/gt-2-glass-thermistors.html )

        Gcode:

        ; Heaters
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00
        M305 P0 R4700 T100000 B4267 C0.0000000706
        M143 H0 S130
        M305 P1 R4700 T100000 B4267 C0.0000000706
        M305 P2 R4700 T100000 B4725 C0.0000000706
        M143 H1 S275

        ; Fans
        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1
        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45
        M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H-1

        ; Tools
        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined

        ; Miscellaneous
        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"
        T0 ; select first tool

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @johny

          Apart from having 3 thermistors setup with only 2 heaters, nothing jumps out at me as being odd.
          Could you take a photo of where you are connecting the thermistors?

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • johnyundefined
            johny
            last edited by johny

            Regarding to where i am connecting them its according to the wiring, also it is printed in the board E0 temp and bed heater :

            bead heater

            hot end heater

            Edit: i tried to connect to the E1 thermistor as well to check if it works that's why it have 3 thermistors setup

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @johny

              Is the second image correct? that you are attaching the thermistor to the green terminals?

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • johnyundefined
                johny
                last edited by

                no sorry! In that i plug the heater, the thermistor is bellow
                alt text

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk
                  last edited by

                  I would set the values to the following

                  M305 P0 T10000 B3950 R4700               ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                  M143 H0 S120                             ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                  M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                  M143 H1 S280                             ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                  

                  The P0 is a generic 3950 which is what tends to be used by chinese suppliers.
                  The P1 is correct for a 104GT

                  I would remove the P2 as this is probably confusing things.

                  If you're still getting no values, I would revisit your crimping

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • johnyundefined
                    johny
                    last edited by

                    I did those changes and i even solder a pair of wires directly to the bed thermistor to bypass any broken cable, the magic number is still there.
                    Probably is something burn in the board, what could it be?
                    Thank you

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk
                      last edited by

                      You could try remapping the bed thermistor to P2 and connecting to the e1 temp header and see if you get a reading

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • johnyundefined
                        johny
                        last edited by

                        I did it, no luck, still same error :S
                        I unplugged a thermistor from another printer to check it if was the thermistor and the same result.

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                          • johnyundefined
                            johny
                            last edited by

                            @bearer said in Reading negative temperature and N/A temp:

                            (Don't think there is one)

                            Well i measure between the vssa and gnd and i got 3 ohms.
                            I just checked that my heat bed had a short between the +12v and gnd but i got no readings even before plugging it.

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                            • blt3dpundefined
                              blt3dp
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                              What version of the firmware does M115 report? Might be useful in troubleshooting.

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                              • johnyundefined
                                johny
                                last edited by

                                @blt3dp said in Reading negative temperature and N/A temp:

                                M115

                                M115
                                FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.0 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2020-01-03b3

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                                • blt3dpundefined
                                  blt3dp @johny
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                                  @johny said in Reading negative temperature and N/A temp:

                                  FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.0

                                  That's why you're not getting a reading, you need have to define the pin that it's using.

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @blt3dp
                                    last edited by jay_s_uk

                                    @johny

                                    Use

                                    ; Bed Heater
                                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 C0 R4700				; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               		; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                    M307 H0 B0 S1.00
                                    M140 H0
                                    M143 H0 S130                               					; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                    
                                    ; Extruder Heater
                                    M308 S0 P"eotemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4275 C7.060000e-8  R4700							;
                                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                		; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                    M143 H1 S400     
                                    

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                                    • blt3dpundefined
                                      blt3dp @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by blt3dp

                                      @jay_s_uk said in Reading negative temperature and N/A temp:

                                      @johny

                                      Use

                                      ; Bed Heater
                                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 C0 R4700				; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               		; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00
                                      M140 H0
                                      M143 H0 S130                               					; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      
                                      ; Extruder Heater
                                      M308 S0 P"eotemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4275 C7.060000e-8  R4700							;
                                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                		; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                      M143 H1 S400     
                                      

                                      Yep, use that. In fact, looks like you're either modifying or creating a new config file based off of a RRF2x one. You might want to run through the web configurator and generate one for RRF3

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                                      • johnyundefined
                                        johny
                                        last edited by

                                        I used and got a different error!
                                        fault on thermistor

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                                        • johnyundefined
                                          johny
                                          last edited by

                                          cant detect sensor

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                                          • blt3dpundefined
                                            blt3dp
                                            last edited by blt3dp

                                            Most likely your tool settings. Update these secttions.

                                            ; Heaters
                                            M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4267 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                            M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                   ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                            M143 H0 S130                                            ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
                                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                            M140 H0                                                 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                            M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4267 C7.06e-8  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                            M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                            M143 H1 S275                                            ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
                                            M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                            
                                            ; Tools
                                            M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                        ; define tool 0
                                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                         ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                            G10 P0 R0 S0                                            ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                            

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