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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

      G28 ; home all axes

      G1 Z15. ; go close to to the surface
      G30 ; Z=0 datum thing
      G1 Z75 ; go up a bit
      M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3 ; warning message

      G29 S1 ;use mesh grid to compensate
      G92 E0
      G1 F1200 E10
      G92 E0

      Can you post your homeall/homedelta?

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      • FelixHundefined
        FelixH @fcwilt
        last edited by

        @fcwilt said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

        Perhaps the height map is being load somewhere else before you are doing the G30?

        Frederick

        this is my initial Gcode, set on the Slicer. Clearly the G30 command is sent before the G29 S1

        G28 ; home all axes
        
        G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
        G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
        G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
        M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
        
        G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
        G92 E0
        G1 F1200 E10
        G92 E0
        
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        • FelixHundefined
          FelixH @Phaedrux
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          @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

          Can you post your homeall/homedelta?

          ; homedelta.g

          ; called to home all towers on a delta printer
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
          G91                        ; relative positioning
          G1 S1 X355 Y355 Z355 F1800 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
          G1 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F1800 S2    ; go down a few mm
          G1 S1 X10 Y10 Z10 F360     ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
          G1 Z-5 F6000               ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
          G90                        ; absolute positioning
          G1 X0 Y0 F6000             ; move X+Y to the centre
          

          I don't have any homeall.g on my sys folder

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
            last edited by

            @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

            @fcwilt said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

            Perhaps the height map is being load somewhere else before you are doing the G30?

            Frederick

            this is my initial Gcode, set on the Slicer. Clearly the G30 command is sent before the G29 S1

            G28 ; home all axes
            
            G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
            G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
            G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
            M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
            
            G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
            G92 E0
            G1 F1200 E10
            G92 E0
            

            Yeah I'm not sure why it would still be giving you the warning about not establishing Z0 with a probe result when that's what your gcode order is doing.

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            • FelixHundefined
              FelixH @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

              Yeah I'm not sure why it would still be giving you the warning about not establishing Z0 with a probe result when that's what your gcode order is doing.

              That's what I was hoping somebody could help me with...

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              • FelixHundefined
                FelixH
                last edited by

                Hi all,

                I've been brainstorming by myself for a couple of days again about it and I'm still on the same place... could it have something to do with the absence of homeall.g? When I tap on the "Home all" icon, it homes all the axes just fine...

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                  last edited by

                  @FelixH well you have a delta so homedelta is your homeall far as I know.

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                  • FelixHundefined
                    FelixH
                    last edited by

                    that was my thought as well, but given it still does not work as it should...

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      For the sake of taking another fresh run at this, can you please provide your current config.g, bed.g, homedelta.g, your start gcode, a picture of your mesh heightmap, and a summary of the problem as it currently is?

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                      • FelixHundefined
                        FelixH
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                        The summary of the problem:

                        The following warning is thrown at the PanelDue / Webinterface every time I try to print something:

                        Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset.
                        

                        even though and as far as I have been able to see, it's the right way to do it. The probe I use is one that was delivered with my printer, one of those limit switches attached with a magnet. I can understand how this is not the ideal probe, but so far is the one I have, and I see no reason for the warning message.

                        config.g

                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                        
                        ; General preferences
                        G90                                                ; Send absolute coordinates...
                        M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
                        
                        ; After G32 auto-calibrate, copied from config-override.g
                        ; Note: G31 Z (below) affects M665 H, and this is NOT yet calibrated.
                        
                        M665 L267.0 R132.382 H301.20 B106.0 X-0.174 Y0.096 Z0.0      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                        M666 X-0.14 Y-0.16 Z0.30 A0.00 B0.00                      ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                        
                        
                        ; Network
                        M550 P"Kossel"                                     ; Set machine name
                        M552 S1                                            ; Enable network
                        ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
                        M586 P0 S1                                         ; Enable HTTP
                        M586 P1 S0                                         ; Disable FTP
                        M586 P2 S0                                         ; Disable Telnet
                        
                        ; Drives
                        M569 P0 S0                                         ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                        M569 P1 S0                                         ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                        M569 P2 S0                                         ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                        M569 P3 S1                                         ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E96                                ; Set steps per mm
                        M566 X300 Y300 Z300 E300                           ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X12000 Y12000 Z12000 E12000                   ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E3000                       ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 I50                   ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
                        
                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 Z0 S1                                         ; Set minimum Z
                        
                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                                   ; Set active high endstops
                        
                        ; Z-Probe
                        M558 P4 H5 F120 T6000                              ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                        G31 P1000 X0 Y0 Z16.10                             ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                        M557 R105 S20                                      ; Define mesh grid
                        
                        ; Heaters
                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                   ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                        M305 P0 T100000 B4267 C0 R4700                     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                        M143 H0 S95                                        ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4267 C0 R4700                     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                        M143 H1 S280                                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                        
                        M307 H1 A452.1 C123.2 D7.5 V12.5 B0                ;Hotend Autotune  //Changed
                        M307 H0 A158.1 C 741.8 D0.7 V12.3 B0               ;Bed Autotune //Changed
                        
                        ; Fans
                        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; PART FAN   -  Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; HOTEND FAN -  Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        M106 P2 S0.20 I0 F500 H-1                          ; ELECTRONICS FAN - Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                        
                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 D0 H1                                      ; Define tool 0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                        
                        ; Automatic power saving
                        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                        
                        ; Custom settings are not configured
                        
                        

                        bed.g

                        ; bed.g
                        ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                        M561 ; clear any bed transform
                        G28  ; home all towers
                        ; Probe the bed at 6 peripheral and 3 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
                        ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
                        G30 P0 X0 Y104.9 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P1 X90.85 Y52.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P2 X90.85 Y-52.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P3 X0 Y-104.9 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P4 X-90.85 Y-52.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P5 X-90.85 Y52.45 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P6 X0 Y52.4 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P7 X45.38 Y-26.2 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P8 X-45.38 Y-26.2 H0 Z-99999
                        G30 P9 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
                        ; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
                        ; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)
                        

                        homedelta.g

                        ; homedelta.g
                        ; called to home all towers on a delta printer
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
                        G91                        ; relative positioning
                        G1 S1 X355 Y355 Z355 F1800 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
                        G1 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F1800 S2    ; go down a few mm
                        G1 S1 X10 Y10 Z10 F360     ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
                        G1 Z-5 F6000               ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
                        G90                        ; absolute positioning
                        G1 X0 Y0 F6000             ; move X+Y to the centre
                        

                        initial g-code

                        G28 ; home all axes
                        
                        M291 P"Attach probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                        
                        G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
                        G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
                        G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
                        M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                        
                        G28; home again, in case the effector move by the removal of the probe
                        
                        G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
                        G92 E0
                        G1 F1200 E10
                        G92 E0
                        
                        

                        Picture of the mesh: please see avobe, I haven't measured again since

                        Many thanks for your worries!

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                        • FelixHundefined
                          FelixH
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                          While testing, I have just seen that when the G30 command is triggered, the following warning is shown on the Web Interface, but not on the PanelDue display:

                          Error:  Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                          

                          which I don't understand because is seems ok when it maps the bed...

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                            last edited by

                            @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                            Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

                            That's odd. Does the switch signal need to be inverted?

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                            • FelixHundefined
                              FelixH @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                              @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                              Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

                              That's odd. Does the switch signal need to be inverted?

                              I tried to invert it with the expected result: crash onto the bed. I followed all the articles I could possibly find and I'm pretty sure the probe is well connected. When is is deployed (aka connected) the light on the board is lit and the Z prove value on the web interface is 0. When I press the switch, the value ramps up to 1000 and the led is off...

                              I'm really running out of thing to try

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                G28 ; home all axes
                                
                                M291 P"Attach probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                                
                                G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
                                G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
                                G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
                                M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                                
                                G28; home again, in case the effector move by the removal of the probe
                                
                                G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
                                G92 E0
                                G1 F1200 E10
                                G92 E0
                                

                                I had written up a long post with a few things to test, but then I saw something that I think is the cause of the problem.

                                If you look at your start gcode, you home the towers, attach the probe, probe the bed, and then home the towers again, resetting the z datum, and then load the heightmap.

                                Remove the second G28. In fact, also remove the G29 S1 for now, since I don't trust the heightmap. If your homed height is correct, and the probe is accurate, and your initial delta calibration is good, you should at least be able to reliably get Z0 to touch the bed as it should at the same spot you probe the bed at.

                                If that works, re run the G29 to generate a new map after you've done another G30 at the center of the bed, but DON'T home the towers between that G30 and the G29.

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                                • FelixHundefined
                                  FelixH
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                                  this is something that I added this afternoon. But I will try you suggestion anyway. However, when I do a G1 Z0 for instance, the nozzle goes to a nice bed distance, but the print fails because no map is loaded...
                                  I'll try your approach, however.

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                                  • FelixHundefined
                                    FelixH
                                    last edited by

                                    Screenshot_2020-02-01 Kossel(1).png

                                    I did the G30, and G29 S1 and tried it again without a second G28... nothing.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
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                                      @FelixH alright. The gist of my alternate approach if this doesn't prove fruitful was to test using m558 P0 to use manual probing as a control experiment.

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                                      • FelixHundefined
                                        FelixH
                                        last edited by FelixH

                                        yeah, I think that's the next step. Just for the sake of it I tried to use the Stall Detection as probe (P10) but it didn't work...

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                                          last edited by

                                          @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                          Stall Detection as probe

                                          Yeah that would be fundamentally impossible on a delta I think.

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                                          • FelixHundefined
                                            FelixH @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by FelixH

                                            @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                            @FelixH alright. The gist of my alternate approach if this doesn't prove fruitful was to test using m558 P0 to use manual probing as a control experiment.

                                            well, just tried that and it worked without errors. As it should.

                                            Not only that, but I am also printing the model it gave everything away. At least I have confirmation that the problem was not reading the bed map.

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