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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
      last edited by

      @FelixH well you have a delta so homedelta is your homeall far as I know.

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      • FelixHundefined
        FelixH
        last edited by

        that was my thought as well, but given it still does not work as it should...

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          For the sake of taking another fresh run at this, can you please provide your current config.g, bed.g, homedelta.g, your start gcode, a picture of your mesh heightmap, and a summary of the problem as it currently is?

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          • FelixHundefined
            FelixH
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            The summary of the problem:

            The following warning is thrown at the PanelDue / Webinterface every time I try to print something:

            Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset.
            

            even though and as far as I have been able to see, it's the right way to do it. The probe I use is one that was delivered with my printer, one of those limit switches attached with a magnet. I can understand how this is not the ideal probe, but so far is the one I have, and I see no reason for the warning message.

            config.g

            ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
            ; executed by the firmware on start-up
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            
            ; General preferences
            G90                                                ; Send absolute coordinates...
            M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
            
            ; After G32 auto-calibrate, copied from config-override.g
            ; Note: G31 Z (below) affects M665 H, and this is NOT yet calibrated.
            
            M665 L267.0 R132.382 H301.20 B106.0 X-0.174 Y0.096 Z0.0      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
            M666 X-0.14 Y-0.16 Z0.30 A0.00 B0.00                      ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
            
            
            ; Network
            M550 P"Kossel"                                     ; Set machine name
            M552 S1                                            ; Enable network
            ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
            M586 P0 S1                                         ; Enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0                                         ; Disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0                                         ; Disable Telnet
            
            ; Drives
            M569 P0 S0                                         ; Drive 0 goes forwards
            M569 P1 S0                                         ; Drive 1 goes forwards
            M569 P2 S0                                         ; Drive 2 goes forwards
            M569 P3 S1                                         ; Drive 3 goes forwards
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
            M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E96                                ; Set steps per mm
            M566 X300 Y300 Z300 E300                           ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X12000 Y12000 Z12000 E12000                   ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000 Y3000 Z3000 E3000                       ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 I50                   ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
            
            ; Axis Limits
            M208 Z0 S1                                         ; Set minimum Z
            
            ; Endstops
            M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1                                   ; Set active high endstops
            
            ; Z-Probe
            M558 P4 H5 F120 T6000                              ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
            G31 P1000 X0 Y0 Z16.10                             ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 R105 S20                                      ; Define mesh grid
            
            ; Heaters
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                   ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
            M305 P0 T100000 B4267 C0 R4700                     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
            M143 H0 S95                                        ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            
            M305 P1 T100000 B4267 C0 R4700                     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
            M143 H1 S280                                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
            
            M307 H1 A452.1 C123.2 D7.5 V12.5 B0                ;Hotend Autotune  //Changed
            M307 H0 A158.1 C 741.8 D0.7 V12.3 B0               ;Bed Autotune //Changed
            
            ; Fans
            M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; PART FAN   -  Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; HOTEND FAN -  Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M106 P2 S0.20 I0 F500 H-1                          ; ELECTRONICS FAN - Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
            
            ; Tools
            M563 P0 D0 H1                                      ; Define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            
            ; Automatic power saving
            M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
            
            ; Custom settings are not configured
            
            

            bed.g

            ; bed.g
            ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            M561 ; clear any bed transform
            G28  ; home all towers
            ; Probe the bed at 6 peripheral and 3 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
            ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
            G30 P0 X0 Y104.9 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P1 X90.85 Y52.45 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P2 X90.85 Y-52.45 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P3 X0 Y-104.9 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P4 X-90.85 Y-52.45 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P5 X-90.85 Y52.45 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P6 X0 Y52.4 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P7 X45.38 Y-26.2 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P8 X-45.38 Y-26.2 H0 Z-99999
            G30 P9 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
            ; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
            ; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)
            

            homedelta.g

            ; homedelta.g
            ; called to home all towers on a delta printer
            ;
            ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jul 12 2018 20:54:00 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
            G91                        ; relative positioning
            G1 S1 X355 Y355 Z355 F1800 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
            G1 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F1800 S2    ; go down a few mm
            G1 S1 X10 Y10 Z10 F360     ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
            G1 Z-5 F6000               ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
            G90                        ; absolute positioning
            G1 X0 Y0 F6000             ; move X+Y to the centre
            

            initial g-code

            G28 ; home all axes
            
            M291 P"Attach probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
            
            G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
            G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
            G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
            M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
            
            G28; home again, in case the effector move by the removal of the probe
            
            G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
            G92 E0
            G1 F1200 E10
            G92 E0
            
            

            Picture of the mesh: please see avobe, I haven't measured again since

            Many thanks for your worries!

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            • FelixHundefined
              FelixH
              last edited by

              While testing, I have just seen that when the G30 command is triggered, the following warning is shown on the Web Interface, but not on the PanelDue display:

              Error:  Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
              

              which I don't understand because is seems ok when it maps the bed...

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                last edited by

                @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

                That's odd. Does the switch signal need to be inverted?

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                • FelixHundefined
                  FelixH @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                  @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                  Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

                  That's odd. Does the switch signal need to be inverted?

                  I tried to invert it with the expected result: crash onto the bed. I followed all the articles I could possibly find and I'm pretty sure the probe is well connected. When is is deployed (aka connected) the light on the board is lit and the Z prove value on the web interface is 0. When I press the switch, the value ramps up to 1000 and the led is off...

                  I'm really running out of thing to try

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    G28 ; home all axes
                    
                    M291 P"Attach probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                    
                    G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
                    G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
                    G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
                    M291 P"Remove probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                    
                    G28; home again, in case the effector move by the removal of the probe
                    
                    G29 S1  ;use mesh grid to compensate
                    G92 E0
                    G1 F1200 E10
                    G92 E0
                    

                    I had written up a long post with a few things to test, but then I saw something that I think is the cause of the problem.

                    If you look at your start gcode, you home the towers, attach the probe, probe the bed, and then home the towers again, resetting the z datum, and then load the heightmap.

                    Remove the second G28. In fact, also remove the G29 S1 for now, since I don't trust the heightmap. If your homed height is correct, and the probe is accurate, and your initial delta calibration is good, you should at least be able to reliably get Z0 to touch the bed as it should at the same spot you probe the bed at.

                    If that works, re run the G29 to generate a new map after you've done another G30 at the center of the bed, but DON'T home the towers between that G30 and the G29.

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                    • FelixHundefined
                      FelixH
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                      this is something that I added this afternoon. But I will try you suggestion anyway. However, when I do a G1 Z0 for instance, the nozzle goes to a nice bed distance, but the print fails because no map is loaded...
                      I'll try your approach, however.

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                      • FelixHundefined
                        FelixH
                        last edited by

                        Screenshot_2020-02-01 Kossel(1).png

                        I did the G30, and G29 S1 and tried it again without a second G28... nothing.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
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                          @FelixH alright. The gist of my alternate approach if this doesn't prove fruitful was to test using m558 P0 to use manual probing as a control experiment.

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                          • FelixHundefined
                            FelixH
                            last edited by FelixH

                            yeah, I think that's the next step. Just for the sake of it I tried to use the Stall Detection as probe (P10) but it didn't work...

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                              last edited by

                              @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                              Stall Detection as probe

                              Yeah that would be fundamentally impossible on a delta I think.

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                              • FelixHundefined
                                FelixH @Phaedrux
                                last edited by FelixH

                                @Phaedrux said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                @FelixH alright. The gist of my alternate approach if this doesn't prove fruitful was to test using m558 P0 to use manual probing as a control experiment.

                                well, just tried that and it worked without errors. As it should.

                                Not only that, but I am also printing the model it gave everything away. At least I have confirmation that the problem was not reading the bed map.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  So the probe is working for the height map creation with g29 but not for just setting the z0 with g30?

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                                  • FelixHundefined
                                    FelixH
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                                    It appears so. Although when I send G30 followed by a G29 S1 from the console, no error or warning appears on the screen

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @FelixH
                                      last edited by

                                      @FelixH that's good. That's as it should be. Does that include g30 with the probe or manual?

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                                      • FelixHundefined
                                        FelixH
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                                        with the probe. If I do it outside of a print, it's not a problem. If I do it within the initial code of the print, then I get the warnings, i.e. that the probe was already triggered at the beginning of the probing. Yesterday I recimped the terminals of the probe. Everything is sound

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                                        • infiniteloopundefined
                                          infiniteloop @FelixH
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                                          @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                          If I do it within the initial code of the print, then I get the warnings…

                                          Looks to me as if the slicer commands the head to Z=0 before your G30 is executed in the initial section. As a test, you might insert a G0 Z4.0 (or whatever height is appropriate for your probe to keep free from the bed) just above the G30.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @infiniteloop
                                            last edited by

                                            @infiniteloop said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                            @FelixH said in Mesh grid compensation - Setup on Initial Gcode:

                                            If I do it within the initial code of the print, then I get the warnings…

                                            Looks to me as if the slicer commands the head to Z=0 before your G30 is executed in the initial section. As a test, you might insert a G0 Z4.0 (or whatever height is appropriate for your probe to keep free from the bed) just above the G30.

                                            It would appear he's got it at 15mm above the bed. and the probe offset is 12mm.

                                            G1 Z15.  ; go close to to the surface
                                            G30        ; Z=0 datum thing
                                            G1 Z75    ; go up a bit
                                            

                                            But maybe it should be higher still incase the homed height is off? 25mm maybe?

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