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    • botundefined
      bot @3DPrintingWorld
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      @3DPrintingWorld

      That's an interesting belt arrangement. Is the reason you did not drive the Y axis from one motor because you couldn't get a belt long enough to go around the whole way?

      *not actually a robot

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      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
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        @bot No not really, I debated a few different arrangements but decided this one was the best and I had a extra driver on the duex5. Less maintenance, setup and believe it or not probably the cheapest option out of the four. If you are interested I have been posting pictures of my progress on my twitter.

        !Y-AXIS.PNG

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        • droftartsundefined
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          @3DPrintingWorld interesting layout! I’m considering something similar for my current build, but single carriage and tool changer. See https://forum.duet3d.com/post/118078

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          • botundefined
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            What would make the single motor setup more costly? It seems with the difficulty of synchronizing the motors taken into account, it may be easier to do a single motor if the belt is not too long.

            *not actually a robot

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            • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
              3DPrintingWorld @droftarts
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              @droftarts That looks really cool, your extruders look sweet! What keeps your x-axis from skewing. I know without the y-axis belts on the current setup I have the x-axis would be all over the place.

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              • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
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                @bot An additional stepper motor is only like $15, versus a shaft, couplings, and a couple bearings. I guess if you went with version "D" it might be cheaper, depending on the belt.

                Its taking me a little bit to get the homing right but I think it will be the right choice in the long run.

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @3DPrintingWorld
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                  @3DPrintingWorld pictures aren’t mine, they’re from the RepRap forums link. The ‘double’ markforge layout is basically a CoreXY, just with the idler that usually takes the belts across the top of the frame moved to the X axis. So it’s in balance, just like a CoreXY, unlike an Hbot or single-sided Y Markforge. It’s effectively yours without the Y axis belts and motors, and with one X carriage the joins the two belts, rather than having them independent.

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                    3DPrintingWorld @droftarts
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                    @droftarts Let me know how it works out when you get it done!

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                    • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
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                      Well, I'm not having much luck figuring out anything on my own.... I'm trying to add a second endstop to the y-axis. With one switch its working fine. When I add "+e1stop" to the M574, if either switch is touched it switches the ystop and both motors stop. What am I doing wrong here? Or do I need to add something to my homey to home two motors on a single axis?

                      M584 X0 U2 Y1:9 Z5:6:7 E3:4

                      M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"
                      M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop+e1stop"
                      M574 U1 S1 P"e0stop"

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                      • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                        3DPrintingWorld @3DPrintingWorld
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                        @dc42 I was wondering if you could help me with this. I have two switches for the y-axis now. When I configure it like this all switch indicate properly in the endstops status screen.
                        M574 X2 S1 P"xstop" ; X min active high endstop switch
                        M574 Y2 S1 P"zstop" ; Y min active high endstop switch
                        M574 U1 S1 P"e0stop" ; U max active high endstop switch

                        But when I add the second endstop tag to the y axis like below the ystop switch no longer changes state only the zstop switch.

                        M574 X2 S1 P"xstop" ; X min active high endstop switch
                        M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop+zstop" ; Y min active high endstop switch
                        M574 U1 S1 P"e0stop" ; U max active high endstop switch

                        Can you enlighten me to what I am doing wrong. The other odd thing is when I unplug the zstop and remove its tag from the config, it shows as triggered. Shouldn't that be the opposite?

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                        • dc42undefined
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                          @3DPrintingWorld, which firmware version are you running? Send M115 to confirm it.

                          Please post your complete config.g file and homing files.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • 3DPrintingWorldundefined
                            3DPrintingWorld @dc42
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                            @dc42 RRF 3.0

                            G90                                             ; send absolute coordinates...
                            M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
                            
                            M669 K0 Y1:-1:0:1				; select Markforged Kinematics Y to react with X and U
                            
                            ; Axis Limits
                            M208 X35 Y0 U-18.4 Z0 S1                        ; set axis min
                            M208 X419 U365 Y336 Z300 S0                     ; set axis max
                            
                            ; Network
                            M552 S1                                         ; enable network
                            M586 P0 S1                                      ; enable HTTP
                            M586 P1 S0                                      ; disable FTP
                            M586 P2 S0                                      ; disable Telnet
                            
                            ; Drives
                            M569 P1 S0                                      ; X physical drive 0 goes backwards
                            M569 P1 S1                                      ; Y right physical drive 1 goes forwards
                            M569 P2 S0                                      ; U physical drive 2 goes backwards
                            M569 P3 S1                                      ; E1 physical drive 3 goes forwards
                            M569 P4 S1                                      ; E2 physical drive 4 goes forwards
                            M569 P5 S0                                      ; Z left physical drive 5 goes backwards
                            M569 P6 S0                                      ; Z center physical drive 6 goes backwards
                            M569 P7 S1                                      ; Z right physical drive 7 goes forwards
                            M569 P9 S0                                      ; Y left physical drive 8 goes backwards
                            M584 X0 U2 Y1:9 Z5:6:7 E3:4                     ; set drive mapping
                            
                            M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                  ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                            M92 X100.00 U100.00 Y100.00:80.00 Z1096:1096:1096 E1827.00:1827.00       ; set steps per mm
                            M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00:900.00 Z12.00:12.00:12.00 E40.00:40.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                            M203 X6000.00 U6000.00 Y6000.00:6000.00 Z1000.00:1000.00:1000.00 E1800.00:1800.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X500.00 U500.00 Y500.00:500.00 Z20.00:20.00:20.00 E120.00:120.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X800 U800 Y800:800 Z200:200:200 E500:500 I30                ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                            M84 S30                                         ; Set idle timeout
                            
                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                             ; X max active high endstop switch
                            M574 U1 S1 P"e0stop"                            ; U min active high endstop switch
                            M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                             ; Y max active high endstop switch
                            ;M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop+zstop"                      ; Y Double max active high endstop switch
                            
                            ; Z-Probe
                            M671 X-20.6:200:420.6 Y14.3:333.3:14.3 S2       ;Locations left, center, right          
                            M950 S0 C"duex.e6heat"                          ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                            M558 P9 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F120 T6000   ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P25 X28.8 Y0 Z2.15                          ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            
                            ; Heaters
                            M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4534 C9.565227e-8  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                            M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                     ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                            M143 H0 S120                                              ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                          ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                            M140 H0                                                   ; map heated bed to heater 0
                            M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                            M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                      ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                            M143 H1 S280                                              ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                            M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                          ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                            M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                            M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2                                      ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
                            M143 H2 S280                                              ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
                            M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                          ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                            
                            ; Fans
                            M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                             ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                            M106 P0 S0 H-1                                   ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                             ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500                             ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                            M106 P2 S0 H-1                                   ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                            M950 F3 C"duex.fan8" Q500                        ; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan4 and set its frequency
                            M106 P3 S1 H2 T45                                ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            
                            ; Tools
                            M563 P0 D0 H1 X3 F0 S"Left"                      ; define tool 0 left 
                            G10 P0 X0 Y-1.2 Z0                               ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                            G10 P0 R0 S0                                     ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                            M563 P1 D1 H2 F2 S"Right"                        ; define tool 1 Right
                            G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                  ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                            G10 P1 R0 S0                                     ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                            M563 P2 D0:1 H1:2 X0:3 F0:2 S"Copy"              ; define tool 2 copy
                            G10 P2 X-75 Y0 U75 S0 R0                         ; set tool 2 axis offsets
                            M567 P2 E1:1                                     ; set mix ratio 100% on both extruders
                            
                            M501                                             ; Record
                            
                            ; homeall.g
                            
                            ; X,U,Y Homing
                            G91                         ; relative positioning
                            G1 H2 Z5 F6000              ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 H1 X475 U-475 Y500 F1800 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 H1 X475                  ; home X axis
                            G1 H1 U-475                 ; home U axis
                            G1 H1 Y500                  ; home Y axis
                            G1 X-5 U5 Y-5 F6000         ; go back a few mm
                            G1 H1 X25 F360              ; move slowly to X axis(second pass)
                            G1 H1 U-25                  ; move slowly to U axis(second pass)
                            G1 H1 Y25                   ; move slowly to Y axis(second pass)
                            
                            ; Z Homing
                            G90 G1 X171 Y150 F10000      ; Move to the center of the bed
                            M558 F500                    ; Fast probing speed
                            G30                          ; First probe
                            M558 F50                     ; Slow probing speed
                            G30                          ; Second probe
                            G32                          ; Level the bed
                            G90 G1 X171 Y150 F10000      ; Move to the center of the bed
                            G30                          ; Bed Deviation probe
                            G90 G1 X417                  ; Park x-axis
                            
                            
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