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    • Carloundefined
      Carlo @Danal
      last edited by

      @Danal

      I am doing G32 before every attempt.
      Ah well just a thought ...about the only thing I have not changed.

      Cheers

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @Carlo
        last edited by

        @Carlo your bed.g should have M561 or G29 S2 at the beginning, otherwise it’s probing will be affected by any bed mesh you have loaded.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        • Carloundefined
          Carlo @droftarts
          last edited by

          @droftarts

          I always make sure mesh is disabled as per delta cal docs when probing I'm gonna fit the new endstops and try again because nothing is making any difference, appreciate everybody helping at least I have a better understanding of reprap though if I don't get this to work not sure I'll remember it.

          Thanks
          C`

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          • Carloundefined
            Carlo
            last edited by

            Hi,

            Does anyone know if I can send the board and effector back to Duet to be tested ?

            Thanks

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            • NexxCatundefined
              NexxCat
              last edited by

              Not sure if it will be any help, but my full Duet2Wifi config for my predator is here:
              https://github.com/nexx/Anycubic-Predator-Duet

              It certainly looks like you're too far away from the bed.

              On the github, you'll also find the macro's I use, including one I run prior to every first print since power-on.

              I'll try and help further when I can, but hopefully this helps for now. The current github is for RRF, but if you go backwards in the history, my RRF2 config is there too.

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              • Carloundefined
                Carlo @NexxCat
                last edited by Carlo

                @NexxCat

                Thanks NexxCat I started with yours and Jay_uks and your carriage adaptors Thank you for posting them.

                It isn't to far away the effector is being lifted away I've tried baby stepping but it just digs up whats been printed honestly after 4 weeks constant not sure there is any combination I have not tried and I'm really not exaggerating
                So today the machine is over 6mm shorter than this afternoon according to the calibration?

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                • NexxCatundefined
                  NexxCat
                  last edited by

                  Have you checked that the probe is actually returning repeatable values?

                  Create a macro with the following in it:

                  G28
                  G30 P0 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P1 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P2 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P3 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P4 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P5 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P6 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P7 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P8 X0 Y0 Z-9999
                  G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-9999 S-1
                  

                  What does the console report after the macro runs?

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo @NexxCat
                    last edited by

                    @NexxCat

                    I’ll try it first thing tomorrow and post back the results.

                    Thanks
                    C

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                    • Carloundefined
                      Carlo @NexxCat
                      last edited by

                      @NexxCat

                      Hi,

                      Results of the macro below.

                      M98 P"0:/macros/Probe test"
                      

                      G32 bed probe heights: -0.078 -0.065 -0.065 -0.103 -0.090 -0.078 -0.090 -0.090 -0.090 -0.065, mean -0.082, deviation from mean 0.013

                      Thanks for help

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                      • NexxCatundefined
                        NexxCat @Carlo
                        last edited by

                        @Carlo Your repeatability isn't as low as mine, but it still seems well within reason:

                        M98 P"0:/macros/ProbeRepeatability.g"
                        G32 bed probe heights: -0.036 -0.036 -0.042 -0.036 -0.036 -0.042 -0.036 -0.042 -0.036 -0.036, mean -0.038, deviation from mean 0.003
                        

                        When you run the delta calibration, are you doing it with the bed and nozzle cold or hot? My macro for calibrating heats the bed to 60C and the nozzle to 130C before it calibrates.

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @Carlo
                          last edited by

                          @Carlo If you're probing the bed with heaters on, turn them off by adding B1 to your M558 command. To quote @dc42 here https://forum.duet3d.com/post/97669

                          The reason we keep the heaters off during the recovery time is that some probes (e.g. BLTouch) need to recover from the effects of the magnetic field generated by the bed heater.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @NexxCat
                            last edited by Carlo

                            @NexxCat
                            Hi NexxCat,

                            Hot..220c hotend 70c Bed....I'll set the heat as you have mentioned.

                            Thanks

                            B1 added Thanks droraft.

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                            • Carloundefined
                              Carlo @NexxCat
                              last edited by

                              @NexxCat

                              Hi,

                              Results at 110c and 60c

                              M98 P"0:/macros/Probe test"
                              G32 bed probe heights: 4.041 4.053 4.041 4.066 4.041 4.053 4.053 4.053 4.053 4.066, mean 4.052, deviation from mean 0.009

                              Thanks

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                              • Danalundefined
                                Danal
                                last edited by

                                @Carlo said in Another Predator:

                                0.009

                                That's pretty darn good. Some mechanics (switch and/or overall printer) may do better... but that's a very good number on its own.

                                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                • NexxCatundefined
                                  NexxCat @Carlo
                                  last edited by

                                  @Carlo said in Another Predator:

                                  @NexxCat

                                  Hi,

                                  Results at 110c and 60c

                                  M98 P"0:/macros/Probe test"
                                  G32 bed probe heights: 4.041 4.053 4.041 4.066 4.041 4.053 4.053 4.053 4.053 4.066, mean 4.052, deviation from mean 0.009

                                  Thanks

                                  That's an excellent result, though I'm curious as why the probe heights are now in the positive and last night they were negative. That offset would certainly explain why nothing is sticking to the bed.

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                                  • Carloundefined
                                    Carlo @NexxCat
                                    last edited by

                                    @NexxCat

                                    Ahh apologies I did change the endstops.... had to the only thing I hadn't changed adjusted the height so now..

                                    M98 P"0:/macros/Probe test"
                                    

                                    G32 bed probe heights: -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.196 -0.184, mean -0.195, deviation from mean 0.004

                                    Better ?

                                    Thanks

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                                    • NexxCatundefined
                                      NexxCat @Carlo
                                      last edited by

                                      @Carlo Yeah that looks fine. Hm. What is your current Z offset set to? In config.g you're after the line like:

                                      G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.210
                                      

                                      Sorry if this has already been mentioned in the thread, just looking for things at the state of play right now.

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                                      • Carloundefined
                                        Carlo @NexxCat
                                        last edited by

                                        @NexxCat

                                        No that's fine I'll add that in....not sure I want to click upload now don't want to be disappointed ...or cry in front of dudes!

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                                        • Carloundefined
                                          Carlo @NexxCat
                                          last edited by

                                          @NexxCat

                                          Sorry I didn't read that fully Z-0.06

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                                          • Carloundefined
                                            Carlo @Carlo
                                            last edited by

                                            @Carlo

                                            This is the result I think everyone looks and thinks it's too far from the bed but it's not actually completing the print move it's changing direction before it should in the picture you can see where the print does a U turn on it's self so it never joins the print together it just doesn't complete the move almost like the radius is wrong like the circle is smaller than it is I'm watching it and it does not complete the circles or arcs it never makes it to the end it changes direction and doesn't go back to finish it.
                                            Failure.jpg
                                            Where it has printed ..it stuck and the outer ring is on the second layer but there is a gap in it.. as have all the arcs and full circles they all have a gap in them and relative to the size the outer are bigger gaps than the inner i.e. the further out it goes the bigger the gap.

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