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    • NexxCatundefined
      NexxCat @GT1Za
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      @GT1Za
      What happens if you manually home X and Y in the web UI, then use the jog controls to move them. Do they move the expected distance?

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      • GT1Zaundefined
        GT1Za
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        No, Y is only moving to roughly 220 before it maxes

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        • NexxCatundefined
          NexxCat @GT1Za
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          @GT1Za
          When it hits the maximum distance, what does the web UI say for the Y co-ordinate? You've got 80 steps/mm in the config, so that would be right for a 1.8 degree stepper with a 20 tooth GT2 pulley.

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          • GT1Zaundefined
            GT1Za
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            @NexxCat
            2961531c-b1f6-490c-9c23-5be8886c3aa1-image.png

            coords show the Y at 220, and you could here it slipping for like a second.

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            • NexxCatundefined
              NexxCat @GT1Za
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              @GT1Za
              I'm assuming when you home Y, it does home correctly and the Y co-ordinate is reported as 0?

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              • GT1Zaundefined
                GT1Za
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                @NexxCat yes the homing works fine and reports 0

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                • NexxCatundefined
                  NexxCat @GT1Za
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                  @GT1Za
                  and just so I've got this right in my head. Starting from Y home, you move the bed using the jog controls and when Y is reported at 220, the bed is actually at the end of it's travel (IE, at 510)?

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                  • GT1Zaundefined
                    GT1Za
                    last edited by GT1Za

                    @NexxCat
                    thats correct
                    abeb81eb-3f03-497a-84de-e5783bc4b16b-image.png

                    I havent homed the other axis so they are reporting 0 here.

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                    • NexxCatundefined
                      NexxCat @GT1Za
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                      @GT1Za
                      The only explanation I have for that is that the Y axis steps/mm aren't correct. Can you take a photo of the Y axis motor and pulley? I'll see if I can tell whether it's a 20T or not.

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                      • GT1Zaundefined
                        GT1Za @NexxCat
                        last edited by GT1Za

                        @NexxCat
                        Y stepper.jpg

                        not sure if that helps. Pretty tough getting to the back of this printer.

                        The motor is about double the height of the normal ones, but its the standard S5 motor.
                        https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/7692/stepper-motor-for-cr10-s5-y-axis

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                        • NexxCatundefined
                          NexxCat @GT1Za
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                          @GT1Za
                          I'm afraid I'm stumped on this one. That looks like a normal 20 tooth pulley and I've checked the Marlin source for the CR10 S5. It definitely uses 80 steps/mm.

                          If the bed was moving an insufficient distance, I'd say maybe the stepper was skipping, or the belt was loose, but it's moving too much which doesn't make sense.

                          Probably a stupid question, but have you tried powering the Duet off and on again, letting it re-load config.g?

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                          • GT1Zaundefined
                            GT1Za @NexxCat
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                            @NexxCat Ill give it a shot now

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                            • GT1Zaundefined
                              GT1Za
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                              @NexxCat Restart made no difference.

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                              • NexxCatundefined
                                NexxCat @GT1Za
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                                @GT1Za
                                Was it doing this prior to us changing stuff to get the BLTouch working? or hadn't it been tested?

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                                • GT1Zaundefined
                                  GT1Za @NexxCat
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                                  @NexxCat never tested it, I had just checked that there was movement.

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                                  • NexxCatundefined
                                    NexxCat @GT1Za
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                                    @GT1Za
                                    I've just compared my config to yours and can't see anything wrong 😞 I'm afraid I can't help further on this one, I've absolutely no idea why the axis is moving more than it should be when everything is configured correctly.

                                    Hopefully someone else can chime in with some ideas, but as far as I'm aware now, once this is solved, the BLTouch should work correctly.

                                    I'll keep this thread in mind and if I come up with anything, I'll pop back and reply. Sorry I couldn't solve this for you!

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                                    • GT1Zaundefined
                                      GT1Za
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                                      @NexxCat thanks man! you have been amazing. Ill keep googling to see if I can get anything. Hopefully someone else can maybe assist.

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                                      • NexxCatundefined
                                        NexxCat @GT1Za
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                                        @GT1Za
                                        Hey, just had a thought. Maybe try swapping the X and Y motor connections on the Duet, then update config.g like so:

                                        Change:
                                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                        to
                                        M584 Y0 X1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                        

                                        It would be interesting to know if the issue moves to the X axis, or if it continues on Y. If it moves, I'd be inclined to talk to one of the mods / admins if the board is in warranty and see what input they have. If it stays on the Y axis, then I'm back to being stumped 😛

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @GT1Za
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                                          @GT1Za said in CR10 S5 upgrade to Duet 2 Wifi:

                                          @NexxCat
                                          Y stepper.jpg

                                          not sure if that helps. Pretty tough getting to the back of this printer.

                                          The motor is about double the height of the normal ones, but its the standard S5 motor.
                                          https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/7692/stepper-motor-for-cr10-s5-y-axis

                                          Belt looks kind of loose to me.

                                          Your E steps for the extruder is still set to the stock 93ish. The Hemera is 415ish.

                                          Ive always liked the idea of keeping the z stop incase the BLtouch fails. Is there no way to keep both?

                                          No, unfortunately it doesn't work like that. But when configured and wired correctly the BLtouch is pretty reliable as an endstop. As a safety precaution it's a good idea to drop motor current during homing so that if the probe does fail it will just stall the motor without causing damage.

                                          Can you do a quick test of your Y axis? Send G92 Y0 to mark it as homed. Then jog it 10mm and measure the actual distance moved. That will help us verify if your steps per mm is correct.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @GT1Za
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                                            @GT1Za said in CR10 S5 upgrade to Duet 2 Wifi:

                                            G31 P500 X-3 Y0 Z3

                                            Your X Y offsets for the probe are improbable. It must be measured. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Measuring_Probe_X_Y_Offset

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