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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
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      Yes, it's a special made for us by E3D, hopefully to become a standard option when both companies are happy with the design.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • lolorcundefined
        lolorc
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        i like the spirit level, I guess you'll replace it with a BMI160 or something !
        bmi160s on the carriage adapters would be ace as well 🙂
        4 IMUs to control delta calibration, vibration issues and provide z probe facility, whooohooo that'd be nice ! 😉

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        • dc42undefined
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          We considered using an accelerometer for both bed probing and effector tilt measurement. But the word I have is that accelerometer based probing doesn't work well on softer surfaces such as PEI.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • a96bimmerm3gmail.comundefined
            a96bimmerm3gmail.com
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            You can count on me to order a set, that looks fantastic! (I have nearly the same hardware down to the 360mm arms)

            Being able to mount things to it with standard holes is a huge plus. Like fan brackets and the differential IR sensor

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            • JeroenZvZundefined
              JeroenZvZ
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              I'am interested too!

              Any time frame when these come available? Also, can you tell something about how you envisioned to attach fans?

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              • Hey_Allenundefined
                Hey_Allen
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                Definitely interested in a set as well.

                That looks promising!

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                • Jamesundefined
                  James
                  last edited by

                  Ditto. Looks clean and light!

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    On the effector pictured, I envisage a printed part to support fans being attached below the effector using the tails of the ball studs. Or you could clamp a fan assembly to the hot end heatsink. We also have another design prototype with additional mounting holes in it.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • Qdeathstarundefined
                      Qdeathstar
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                      Is there an eta on availability/approximate cost.

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                      • Jimborrundefined
                        Jimborr
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                        Guess I know what I am buying in the near future then ;D

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                        • dc42undefined
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                          I got the built-in nozzle contact sensor working today. If I move the nozzle to 0.1mm below Z=0 then the probe sometimes triggers, and if I move it to 0.125mm below Z-0 then it always triggers. I think this is probably a reasonable sensitivity, because I am using a PEI bed. PEI is known for being soft and causing difficulties with accelerometer-based sensors because of that. I've already identified some design improvements to make the next prototype more sensitive.

                          We don't yet know what the cost will be. If we can avoid the expense and risk of drilling piezo disks - as we hope to - then it will help keep the manufacturing cost down. At present the component cost is reasonable, but the manufacturing cost may be a little high because there are SMD parts on one side and through-hole connectors on both sides. So at least 2 of the connectors will have to be hand-soldered.

                          I've also been talking to E3D about a slightly modified hot end mounting method that puts less of the hot end below the effector than the current setup.

                          As for ETA, we need at least one more round of prototyping and some beta testing before we go to manufacture. Given the turnaround time on PCBs, that makes it at least 8 weeks away from general availability.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • kraegarundefined
                            kraegar
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                            I think it's reasonable to sell something like that with the hand soldered pieces separate, and charge a small fee to solder them. That's not totally uncommon (Headers on many breakouts, for example) and people at a place in this hobby to want to buy your effectors should be able to handle basic through-hole soldering.

                            Co-Creator of the RailcoreII CoreXY printer
                            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2407174

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                            • a96bimmerm3gmail.comundefined
                              a96bimmerm3gmail.com
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                              I'm fine with no piezos. And let me know if you need any prototypes on this side of the pond- there's a few PCB houses in california that have done PCB prototypes for me for very cheap.

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                              • Jimborrundefined
                                Jimborr
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                                Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

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                                • dc42undefined
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                                  I used the onboard nozzle contact sensor to do auto calibration and mesh bed levelling on my 300mm diameter bed delta today. After I remembered to remove the H corrections from bed.g and put in the new diagonal rod length, the deviation for both was around 20um. I'll do more tests tomorrow to check how reproducible the sensor is.

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
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                                    @Jimborr:

                                    Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

                                    We will certainly explore collaborating with Haydn on purchasing his mag arms in larger volumes to bundle with the effectors, once we get closer to a production version. That makes sense for people in the UK/Europe at least (it makes less sense to import them from the US just to ship them back).

                                    www.duet3d.com

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                                    • JohnOCFIIundefined
                                      JohnOCFII
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                                      I'll keep my eye one this!

                                      John

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                                      • botundefined
                                        bot
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                                        I'm curious about that custom e3d heatsink. Does it have the piezo disk integrated? I'd love an e3d hotend with simply three screws to mount it rather than the groove mount, but I'm not certain that I'd like to experiment with piezo disks. Can you clarify what that is in the photos?

                                        *not actually a robot

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                                        • Cataundefined
                                          Cata
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                                          I don't like the custom heatsink, not easy to leave a standard.

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            It's not a custom heatsink, it's a prototype of a new design that E3D is working on because a lot of people hate the groove mount.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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