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    • Jim46undefined
      Jim46
      last edited by

      Hello Phaedrux,
      Thanks for your suggestions.
      I updated the M906 and M584 as suggested.
      To clarify; I make commands from the Machine Movement table in the Dashboard.
      When I command the X motor on Driver 1 I get nice +/- movement.
      When I command, say the +50 on Y, the dual Y motors on Drivers 2 & 3 gives nice +/- movement.
      When I command, say the +25 on Z, the dual Z motors on Drivers 4 & 5 DOES NOT move the Z motors. However, the Y motors DO move as if they think they are the Z motors, that is, they move slowly. Again no Z motor movement in the dual motor mode.
      Yes, this is a bench set up where I am trying to determine if the motors move correctly when given a command.
      No Homing Macros yet. I don't know how to set those up so far.
      When I run M122 on the DashBoard, it gives a warning that the "response takes too long" and say see the Console. I open the Console and don't find an M122 event. Therefore, no information.
      I updated the RRF Config tool and added the changes recommended.
      Here it is,

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Mon May 11 2020 13:56:00 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                            ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                            ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Duet 3"                 ; set printer name
      
      ; Network
      M552 P0.0.0.0 S1               ; enable network network and acquire dynamnic address via DHCP
      M586 P0 S1                     ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                     ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                     ; disable Telnet
      
      
      
      ; Drives
      M584 X1 Y2:3 Z4:5 E0           ; set drive mapping, dual on Y drives 2&3 and Z drives on 4&5
      M569 P0 S1                     ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                     ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1                     ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S1                     ; physicsl drive 3 goes forwards           
      M569 P4 S1                     ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
      M569 P5 S1                     ; physical drive 5 goes forwards
      
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1              ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X53.33 Y53.33 Z53.33 E400        ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E2000    ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E6000 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E3000    ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1600 I30     ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                              ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1               ; set axis minima
      M208 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 S0      ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      ; WARNING: No endstops configured
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000          ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
      M557 X0:1000 Y0:1000 S50       ; define mesh grid
      
      ; Heaters
      
      ; Fans
      
      ; Tools
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      M302 P1                        ; allow cold extrusion (clay is cold)
      
      

      Thanks again, Jim

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      • Jim46undefined
        Jim46
        last edited by

        Hi Phaedrux,
        I forgot to report m the M584 command, I just did it and here are the result in the Console. The field is blue and the text reads:
        5/12/2020, 11:59:17 AM M584
        Driver assignments: X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.2:0.3 E0.0, 3 axes visible.
        That looks a little strange to me. Would it be X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 E0.0 ??? If this is so, how do you edit that?
        Also Side question. Can I use 53.3333 on Line 29 M92 Steps per mm?
        Thank you so much,
        Jim

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Alright, that confirms my suspicion. At least that explains why Y is moving. I think we need to modify how your M584 is written. The way you have it currently works in RRF2, but in RRF3 we need to specify the board location of the drivers so that it knows if it's on the main board or on a tool board, etc.

          Try this

          M584 X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 E0.0
          

          The leading 0 identifies the main board. The number after the period is the driver number on that board.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M584_Set_drive_mapping

          In RRF_3, M584 works the same way as in RRF_2, with exception that on Duet 3 the driver on expansion boards are assigned with <board address>.<driver number>. Example:
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4:1.0:1.1
          The "0" index for the main board is implicit, this is equivalent to the previous example:
          
          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3:0.4:1.0:1.1
          

          I should have clued into that sooner.

          @Jim46 said in Independent Y and Z Motors not working:

          Also Side question. Can I use 53.3333 on Line 29 M92 Steps per mm?

          Yes, decimal values are supported in Reprap firmware.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux said in Independent Y and Z Motors not working:

            The leading 0 identifies the main board. The number after the period is the driver number on that board.

            he had it like that initially and no drivers worked, removing the 0. resulted in some success. could be changed since RRF3.0 though.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @A Former User
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              @bearer Hmmm. I also thought it was implied for the main board with no leading board identifier, but the result of M584 in the console indicates that either the M584 in config.g is either not being applied or there is another M584 hiding out somewhere else.

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • Jim46undefined
                Jim46
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                Greetings,

                Up dated M584
                M584 X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 E0.0 ; set drive mapping, dual on Y drives 2&3 and Z drives on 4&5
                Ran M584 and came back in console with:
                5/12/2020, 3:18:04 PM M584
                Driver assignments: X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.2:0.3 E0.0, 3 axes visible.
                To your point, it looks like M584 is not updating the Z drives. How does one find a ghost version of M584? Or, could this be an issue in the firmware?
                It seems like we might be near an answer?
                jim

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @Jim46
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                  @Jim46 I don't see an M501 in your config.g so that rules out the possibility of it being config_overide.g. Try sending M98 P"config.g". This will run the config.g file again. Then send M584 again and report the result.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators @Jim46
                    last edited by

                    @Jim46 what version of RRF3 are you using? Send M115 and post reply. Earlier versions had an issue with defining more than one multiple motor axis in one M584 command. Try:

                    M584 X1 Y2:3
                    M584 Z4:5 E0
                    

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User @droftarts
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                      @droftarts said in Independent Y and Z Motors not working:

                      Earlier versions

                      it should be 3.0 (possibly 3.0beta-somethin) so you're probably onto something there.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        To add to Ian's reply, I recommend you upgrade to RRF 3.01-RC12 if you are running an earlier version.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • Jim46undefined
                          Jim46
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                          Hello All,
                          Just ran M98 P"config.g" and then M584 yielding...

                          5/12/2020, 4:19:04 PM 	M584
                          Driver assignments: X0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.2:0.3 E0.0, 3 axes visible
                          
                          5/12/2020, 4:22:10 PM 	M115
                          FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 v0.6 FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.0beta11 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 version v0.6 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-10-21b1
                          

                          Loaded and ran commands from the Dashboard,

                          M584 X1 Y2:3
                          M584 Z4:5 E0
                          
                          

                          Hallelujah! It worked!
                          X1 X-50 and X+50 ran smoothly!
                          Y2&3 Y-50 and Y+50 ran smoothly
                          Z4&5 Z-25 and Z+25 ran the Z motors smoothly, NO effect on the Y motors now!
                          Gentlemen, please take a big bow and applause from me!
                          Jim
                          PS. I imagine that there are a lot of updates coming that I may ask for your help again.

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