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    • joehsmashundefined
      joehsmash
      last edited by

      You can see where the top of the lead nut is embeded into the upper gantry. so technically i could cheat it and raise the gantry and tighten it down onto the lead nut with that screw.

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      • joehsmashundefined
        joehsmash @JoergS5
        last edited by

        @JoergS5 what do you mean after a calibration test?

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        • JoergS5undefined
          JoergS5
          last edited by JoergS5

          I mean after you run your procedure for Z leveling which fails with 0.5 mm fault. After this test/macro/... make a M112 - sorry M122

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          • joehsmashundefined
            joehsmash
            last edited by

            here is the M122 pre leveling

            M122
            === Diagnostics ===
            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
            Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
            Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (13 max)
            === RTOS ===
            Static ram: 27980
            Dynamic ram: 93836 of which 32 recycled
            Exception stack ram used: 264
            Never used ram: 8960
            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,416) HEAT(blocked,1224) MAIN(running,1880) IDLE(ready,80)
            Owned mutexes:
            === Platform ===
            Last reset 00:00:52 ago, cause: software
            Last software reset at 2020-06-03 01:05, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 8720 bytes (slot 2)
            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
            Error status: 0
            MCU temperature: min 34.4, current 34.9, max 35.4
            Supply voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
            Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
            Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
            Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
            Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
            Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
            Date/time: 2020-06-03 01:06:17
            Cache data hit count 86939936
            Slowest loop: 5.44ms; fastest: 0.13ms
            I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
            === Storage ===
            Free file entries: 10
            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
            SD card longest read time 3.6ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
            === Move ===
            Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 169, MaxWait: 0ms
            Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
            === MainDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
            === AuxDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
            === Heat ===
            Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
            === GCodes ===
            Segments left: 0
            Movement lock held by null
            HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
            Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
            File is idle in state(s) 0
            USB is idle in state(s) 0
            Aux is idle in state(s) 0
            Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
            Queue is idle in state(s) 0
            Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
            Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
            Code queue is empty.
            === Network ===
            Slowest loop: 15.63ms; fastest: 0.00ms
            Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

            • WiFi -
              Network state is active
              WiFi module is connected to access point
              Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
              WiFi firmware version 1.23
              WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
              WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Unknown
              WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 22208
              WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
              WiFi signal strength -45dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
              Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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            • joehsmashundefined
              joehsmash @JoergS5
              last edited by

              @JoergS5

              M292
              Warning: the height map has a substantial Z offset. Suggest use Z-probe to establish Z=0 datum, then re-probe the mesh.
              9 points probed, min error 1.050, max error 1.650, mean 1.378, deviation 0.219
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv

              M292
              Error: Some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 0.50mm: 1.585 0.865

              post leveling

              M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
              Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N8PS4-7JKDA-3S86M-9BAZN
              Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (20 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 27980
              Dynamic ram: 94036 of which 32 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 512
              Never used ram: 8512
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,396) HEAT(blocked,1224) MAIN(running,1632) IDLE(ready,80)
              Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:08:31 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2020-06-03 01:05, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 8720 bytes (slot 2)
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
              Error status: 0
              MCU temperature: min 34.5, current 35.2, max 35.4
              Supply voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
              Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/437
              Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2020-06-03 01:13:56
              Cache data hit count 854313108
              Slowest loop: 14.99ms; fastest: 0.13ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 4.3ms, write time 2.0ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 167, MaxWait: 85235ms
              Bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 112, completed moves: 112, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 199.92ms; fastest: 0.09ms
              Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
              HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

              • WiFi -
                Network state is active
                WiFi module is connected to access point
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
                WiFi firmware version 1.23
                WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:2d:64:61
                WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Unknown
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 22208
                WiFi IP address 192.168.1.44
                WiFi signal strength -40dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Socket states: 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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              • joehsmashundefined
                joehsmash
                last edited by

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5
                  last edited by JoergS5

                  I don't see errors (error counts or hiccups) in M122.

                  You should try the test of loosing one side and run the test again. Releasing the side is only for the test.

                  One idea is your little screw is connected to a plastic part. This part is much weaker than all the steel/brass around, so it will flex much more under pressure.

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                  • joehsmashundefined
                    joehsmash @JoergS5
                    last edited by

                    @JoergS5 what should i make loose? i mean why would i have all these issues?

                    i never had any problems with the ramps before. the auto bed level worked fine, everything worked fine, i just wanted a quieter printer and more features than that old ramps could provide me.

                    i would honestly say that theres nothing physically wrong with my set up but im down to try what ever.

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @joehsmash
                      last edited by

                      @joehsmash My idea was that the Z movemement stuck because you have pressure between left and right side. This was the reason for my proposal. But if you know that this is not the reason, you don't need to make this test of course!

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                      • joehsmashundefined
                        joehsmash @JoergS5
                        last edited by

                        @JoergS5 also about that little screw, thats not an issue. its currently not holding any weight other than to just hold the clamp onto the lead nut so that my axis switch stays in place.

                        as i said before i could cheat it but it would just cause more issues.

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5
                          last edited by

                          No problem, don't do anything I propose if you don't want to.

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                          • joehsmashundefined
                            joehsmash @JoergS5
                            last edited by

                            @JoergS5 20200603_012633.jpg

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                            • joehsmashundefined
                              joehsmash @JoergS5
                              last edited by

                              @JoergS5 i see what you saying.

                              the way this gantry works is there are these clips that hold the axis end stops in place, that sandwiches the top of the gantry to the lead nut so that when it pushes the nozzle into the bed it will tilt the gantry and raise one of the sides which inturn triggers one of the switches.

                              on a side note, if the gantry gets too much out of level it puts lots of pressure on the lead screw and the linear rail and as such will not allow the switches to trigger.

                              right now theres is no pressure between the right and the left screws because i have manually leveled the gantry. only the firmware keeps pushing it out of level.

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                              • JoergS5undefined
                                JoergS5
                                last edited by

                                I want to share a last idea what could be wrong: the endstop is very near to the construction above:
                                Clipboard01.jpg

                                Maybe it bumps into the upper part before the switch is activated sometimes.

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                                • joehsmashundefined
                                  joehsmash
                                  last edited by

                                  if i take the axis clamps off theres nothing to stop the gantry from just raising until the lead nuts come out of the gantry and it will just sit there and spin forever

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                                  • joehsmashundefined
                                    joehsmash @JoergS5
                                    last edited by

                                    @JoergS5 right now the NC switch is in an inverted state, the entire weight of the gantry is resting on the lead nut, and the switch clamp is clamped to the leadnut and snugged up to the bottom of the gantry. so that when the nozzle hits the bed, it raises the gantry approx 1mm which causes either of the switches to trigger.

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                                    • JoergS5undefined
                                      JoergS5 @joehsmash
                                      last edited by

                                      @joehsmash said in RRF 3 Z home not triggering.:

                                      if i take the axis clamps off theres nothing to stop the gantry from just raising until the lead nuts come out of the gantry and it will just sit there and spin forever

                                      I didn't mean to remove anything, only to loose one side. (With loose I mean: Do not tighten the screws but loosen them, so that they can give way a little.)

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                                      • JoergS5undefined
                                        JoergS5 @joehsmash
                                        last edited by

                                        @joehsmash said in RRF 3 Z home not triggering.:

                                        @JoergS5 right now the NC switch is in an inverted state, the entire weight of the gantry is resting on the lead nut, and the switch clamp is clamped to the leadnut and snugged up to the bottom of the gantry. so that when the nozzle hits the bed, it raises the gantry approx 1mm which causes either of the switches to trigger.

                                        Ok I understand. That's a good idea and is very precise!

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                                        • joehsmashundefined
                                          joehsmash @JoergS5
                                          last edited by

                                          @JoergS5

                                          Subtle switch trip https://imgur.com/a/RrO48ah

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                                          • JoergS5undefined
                                            JoergS5
                                            last edited by

                                            I am not sure, but while watching the video, I think I see some subtle rotations of the endstop while it activates. The rotation means Z movement because the endstop is connected to the trapezoid spindel. Maybe this is the reason for your differing values.

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