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    deltajegga
    last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 07:45

    i want to add an emergency stop switch, i read the firmware 3 page and as i understand it i need to put M581 P"duex.e2stop" T0 C0 and connect to the far right endstop on the duex with the two outer pins? it does not seem to do anything.

    second , is there a way to adjust the bangbang "allowable temperature range"? right now it triggers when its just .1 deg off, and its just flickering the lights a lot, i even have a zero crossing SSR and its on a 33x55 inch 1kw heater. can you use PWM with an SSR?

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      aidar
      last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 08:13

      What firmware version? You probably need this : https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M581_RepRapFirmware_3_01RC2_and_later

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        deltajegga
        last edited by 6 Jun 2020, 08:50

        v3.1.1

        i read this page, it says S is no longer used.
        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_M581

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 7 Jun 2020, 21:12

          I'm not sure about the trigger, but for your bed heater question, you should do a PID tuning for the bed and use PWM control rather than bang-bang.

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            deltajegga @Phaedrux
            last edited by 8 Jun 2020, 11:56

            @Phaedrux ok, thanks. should i repost the trigger question somewhere else?

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 8 Jun 2020, 22:25

              No, here is fine.

              Make sure the endstop pin you're using matches the pin name you're using in the command.

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                deltajegga
                last edited by deltajegga 6 Sept 2020, 22:40 9 Jun 2020, 22:38

                yeah... duex.e2stop is the far right endstop on the duex. it does nothing. ive also tried the other endstops with respective names.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 10 Jun 2020, 20:07

                  Can you post your entire config.g?

                  Did you specify the pin with M950 J?

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M581_RepRapFirmware_3_01RC2_and_later

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                    deltajegga
                    last edited by 11 Jun 2020, 09:21

                    no i did not. it seems to be missing from here.
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_M950_Create_heater_fan_or_GPIO_servo_port

                    i dont quite understand it. i tried J6 but that didnt work. is there a page that shows the pin numbers and names? or do i also need to add C to M950?

                    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                    ;
                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.1 on Sun May 31 2020 21:54:40 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
                    ; General preferences
                    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                    M550 P"1M" ; set printer name
                    ; Network
                    M552 S1 ; enable network
                    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
                    M587 S"MTS" P"Judy1985"
                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards X
                    M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards RY
                    M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards RZ
                    M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards E
                    M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards LY
                    M569 P6 S0 ; physical drive 6 goes backwards LZ
                    M584 X0 Y1:5 Z2:6 E3 ; set drive mapping
                    M350 X16 Y16:16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                    M92 X114.29 Y114.29:114.29 Z400.00:400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
                    M566 X300.00 Y100:100 Z12:12 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    M203 X2600.00 Y2600:2600 Z500:500 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    M201 X100.00 Y50:50 Z20:20 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M906 X800 Y1100:1100 Z600:600 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                    ; Axis Limits
                    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                    M208 X1400 Y800 Z900 S0 ; set axis maxima
                    ; Endstops
                    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                    M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                    ; Z-Probe
                    M950 S0 C"duex.e2heat" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                    M558 P9 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                    G31 P500 X28.3 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                    M557 X15:1350 Y50:750 S75 ; define mesh grid
                    ; Heaters
                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                    M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                    M307 H0 A46.7 C538.0 D3.3 V24.0 ; bed tuning parameters
                    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    ; Miscellaneous
                    M911 S22 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                    T0 ; select first tool
                    M950 J6
                    M581 P"duex.e2stop" T0 C0 ;emergency stop
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                      deltajegga
                      last edited by 11 Jun 2020, 09:36

                      oh i found this, do i just add M950 J1 C"duex.e2stop"?
                      how many values are there for J?
                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_Emergency_Stop

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by Phaedrux 6 Nov 2020, 16:38 11 Jun 2020, 16:38

                        My understanding is that J is just the index number. The pin being attached to that index is the actual physical pin name being used. "duex.e2heat" for example.

                        From the M950 wiki entry example: M950 J1 C"!^e1stop" ; Input 1 uses e1Stop pin, inverted, pullup enabled

                        Then in the M581 P you'd reference the J number from the M950.

                        M950 J1 C"e1stop"

                        M581 P1 T0 C0

                        J1 = P1

                        At least I think that's how it's working.

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                          deltajegga
                          last edited by 12 Jun 2020, 09:08

                          that would make sense, but i tried it and still no dice.

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                            aidar
                            last edited by 12 Jun 2020, 09:19

                            Not sure, but if i remember correctly what i readed other day, you have to enable pull-up for duex endstops. So your M950 should looks like :
                            M950 J1 C"^duex.e2stop"

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                              deltajegga
                              last edited by 12 Jun 2020, 09:51

                              just tried that. still nothing. i wish all the RRF V3 information was more centrally contained.

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                                deltajegga
                                last edited by 18 Jun 2020, 10:41

                                so is there anything else i can try?

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                                  deckingman @deltajegga
                                  last edited by 18 Jun 2020, 11:01

                                  @deltajegga said in endstop trigger and bangbang questions:

                                  so is there anything else i can try?

                                  Yes. Firstly make sure the switch you've connected is actually working as it should. If you go to the web interface you should find a tab that shows the end stops and their trigger states. I think it's "settings - machine specific" or some such. The end stops are listed in numerical order from 0 so it might not be obvious which is which. But no matter. Activate your switch while observing that page. One of those end stops should change state.

                                  If the switch shows triggered when it isn't and vice versa, then you'll need to invert things so that it detects a falling edge rather than a rising edge (or vice versa). That is done by using either S0 or S1 in your M581 (can't remember which is which - try them both and see which one works).

                                  Ian
                                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                    deltajegga @deckingman
                                    last edited by 20 Jun 2020, 19:23

                                    @deckingman wouldent the led also turn on or off?

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                                      deltajegga
                                      last edited by 20 Jun 2020, 20:16

                                      a new development, apparently

                                      ;M950 J1 C"!^duex.e2stop"
                                      ;M581 P1 T0 C0

                                      makes it reset when i home the Y axis...

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 20 Jun 2020, 21:01

                                        What is the switch and how is it wired?

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                                          deltajegga @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by deltajegga 21 Jun 2020, 01:42

                                          @Phaedrux just a bare switch wired normally closed. after i commented that bit out, it homed all just fine. also if i just pushed the switch by hand it wouldn't reset, only when i ran home y or home all

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