Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Thermistor at 2000c

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
    Firmware installation
    5
    31
    1.5k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Bewarenundefined
      Bewaren
      last edited by

      I've managed to get the firmware updated, just had to reinstall it. However the thermistors now show a temperature of '-273.1 C'. @Phaedrux

      Phaedruxundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Bewaren
        last edited by

        The web interface was updated along with the firmware.

        When you send M98 Pconfig.g now do you get any errors?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

        Bewarenundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Bewarenundefined
          Bewaren @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux

          HTTP is enabled on port 80
          FTP is enabled on port 21
          TELNET is enabled on port 23
          Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C

          This is what I am getting now, I am also struggling with the smart effector wiring for the thermistor, I am using a PT100 Thermistor, 2 pins but I am trying to figure out which pins I need to connect it too.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            If you're using a PT100 your config is incorrect.

            M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
            M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
            M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
            

            This is for a thermistor. In the configurator you'd need to choose which channel you have the PT100 connected to.

            Do you have the PT100 daughter board?

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

            Bewarenundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Bewarenundefined
              Bewaren @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux I do not no, I am using the thermistor provided with the E3D Hotend for the smart effector, I believe it is a PT100, correct? It was a while back since I bought it.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Bewarenundefined
                Bewaren @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux I have pins T3 - T4 wired up, is that correct?

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I'm not sure what you bought. 😀

                  To use a pt100 you'll need the pt100 daughter board.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Can you post some photos?

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                    Bewarenundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • Bewarenundefined
                      Bewaren @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux alt text20200616_005347.jpg 20200616_005354.jpg

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Bewarenundefined
                        Bewaren @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux Hope these help

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Bewarenundefined
                          Bewaren
                          last edited by

                          The wiring it a little messy at the moment, please excuse it xD

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Well we need to verify what sensor you are actually using. Is it a thermistor or PT100. If it's a PT100 you will need the daughter board before you can use it.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                            Bewarenundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Bewarenundefined
                              Bewaren @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux 20200616_010917.jpg

                              This is the thermistors or PT100 I am using, not sure if it helps identify it

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                I believe the E3D PT100s use red wires and the thermistors are blue. But I'm not sure if that's a hard rule, but I think that's generally the case.

                                https://e3d-online.com/collections/printer-parts-electrical/products/thermistor-cartridge
                                https://e3d-online.com/collections/printer-parts-electrical/products/pt100-temperature-sensor

                                You should try to verify with your invoice or email confirmation from your purchase to be sure.

                                You'll need a daughter board to be able to read the PT100.
                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_PT100_temperature_sensors

                                https://e3d-online.com/products/pt100-daughterboard-for-duet-wifi?_pos=4&_sid=8859bba4b&_ss=r

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                A Former User? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Bewarenundefined
                                  Bewaren
                                  last edited by

                                  Alright I can confirm it's a PT100, found the invoice. I will get one ordered asap.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Glad we got that sorted out. Once you have the daughterboard installed and connected you'll need to make a change to your temp sensor config to point to the PT100.

                                    M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865"             ; configure sensor 1 as thermocouple via CS pin spi.cs1
                                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                    

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                    sg2020undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      You should try to verify with your invoice or email confirmation from your purchase to be sure.

                                      suppose its still possible they could have shipped the wrong one, to be sure use a multimeter and measure the resistance at room temperature; PT100 should be about 100 ohm, and PT1000 should be about 1000 ohm.

                                      (Techincally PT100 is 100 ohm at 0°C and closer to 110 at room temperature, and 1100 ohm for PT1000)

                                      Bewarenundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • Bewarenundefined
                                        Bewaren @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @bearer comes back at 109 ohm

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • sg2020undefined
                                          sg2020 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux I was also trying to get my E3D PT100 sensor to work and your code helped. Could you explain why this works? Why does it need p"spi.cs1"? why is it configuring the sensor 1 as a thermocouple?

                                          Phaedruxundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @sg2020
                                            last edited by

                                            @sg2020 said in Thermistor at 2000c:

                                            @phaedrux I was also trying to get my E3D PT100 sensor to work and your code helped. Could you explain why this works? Why does it need p"spi.cs1"? why is it configuring the sensor 1 as a thermocouple?

                                            Ignore the comment on that line. It's not actually a thermocouple, that's just the comment that the config tool has added. It seems to be the same regardless of what type of daughterboard you've chosen.

                                            The important thing is that you're telling it what pin you're using (spi.cs1) and what type of daughterboard chip you're using (rtd-max31865).

                                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                            tony449777undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA