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    • Marco Bonaundefined
      Marco Bona
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      Hi everyone,
      for some days now my original Bl touch don't responded correctly during the execution of bed.g, in substance it no longer distributes the probe.
      The strange thing is that if I run M401 and M402 it works correctly, while when I start printing it goes to the position to be probed and starts probing with the probe raised.
      I have been using Duet3 with the latest firmware revision for about 20 days and it has never given me any problems until a few days ago.
      Yesterday it worked on the first print, then when I started the second print I was forced to turn off the printer for a few minutes and then it started working again.
      Despite responding to commands M401 \ M402,tpre2.g tpost2.g tfree2.g start.g retractprobe.g probe.g deployprobe.g config-override.g config.g bed.g with G30 it no longer distributes the probe.
      Has anyone had any similar problems?
      I publish my files, at the start of printing a new tool is created with the coordinates of the probe which is then deleted once any other tool is called
      tpre2.g tpost2.g tfree2.g start.g retractprobe.g probe.g deployprobe.g config-override.g config.g bed.g

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Marco Bona
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        @Marco-Bona said in Strange behavior with Bl touch:

        at the start of printing a new tool is created with the coordinates of the probe which is then deleted once any other tool is called

        Can you describe that a bit more please?

        Can you send M115 and verify your firmware version?

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          What do you have in M98 P"customconfig.g" that gets called at the end of config.g?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            Remove M401 and M402 from your bed.g

            M401                          ; deploy Z probe if necessary
            G30 P0 X-140 Y0 Z-99999       ; left lead screw
            G30 P1 X140 Y0 Z-99999 S2     ; right lead screw
            M402                          ; retract the Z probe
            

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Also include your homeall.g and your slicer start gcode please.

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              • Marco Bonaundefined
                Marco Bona
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                @Phaedrux, I have understand where the problem lies, I have a small motor very close to the probe, if I enable the motor before touching the bed it creates some disturbance at bltouch.
                I am doing some tests but it would seem solved.
                Another problem I am having is the continuous restart of panel due once the bed reaches the temperature, I also tried to enable the bang-bang function but nothing changes. The bed is 24v, the card is connected to an ssr, do I have to put a restorer or something between the card and the ssr?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  I would suggest you use PID for the bed instead of bang bang. Try to seperate your power wiring from signal wiring. Twisting the wire pairs can help as well.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

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                  • Marco Bonaundefined
                    Marco Bona
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                    @Phaedrux , i tried all the options you suggested but i didn't get anything. Just out of curiosity because I didn't find detailed information, do you suggest putting ssr before or after load?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @Marco-Bona said in Strange behavior with Bl touch:

                      do you suggest putting ssr before or after load?

                      I'm sorry,I don't understand the question.

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                      • PDBealundefined
                        PDBeal @Marco Bona
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                        @Marco-Bona said in Strange behavior with Bl touch:

                        @Phaedrux, I have understand where the problem lies, I have a small motor very close to the probe, if I enable the motor before touching the bed it creates some disturbance at bltouch.

                        From what I read before I went with BLTouch sensors on all my machines, they're very sensitive to noise. To combat this, on all my machines I've threaded the wires through a braided shield I bought from McMasterCarr. It's paid of as I don't have any repeatability issues with any of them, and two of them run next to motors and heater wires. I do heat shrink both ends to prevent the braided shield from fraying.

                        Interference-Shielding Expandable Sleeving
                        1/4" ID

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                        • Marco Bonaundefined
                          Marco Bona
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                          @PDBeal ,great advice!! Thanks for the info

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                          • Marco Bonaundefined
                            Marco Bona
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux, sorry for the bad english ...... I hope you can make understand otherwise I will make a drawing, do you recommend putting SSR before or after heated bed?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Marco Bona
                              last edited by Phaedrux

                              @Marco-Bona You would switch the live side, not the ground side.

                              But if the bed is 24v why use an SSR?

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                              • Marco Bonaundefined
                                Marco Bona
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                                @Phaedrux ,I try to invert it, the bed is powered by 24v but I believe that the connection does not change.
                                Check it out and I'll update you, thanks

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  @Phaedrux said in Strange behavior with Bl touch:

                                  But if the bed is 24v why use an SSR?

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                                  • Marco Bonaundefined
                                    Marco Bona
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux, just for safety

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                                    • Marco Bonaundefined
                                      Marco Bona
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux, I finally managed to solve, all the fault of bad insulation of heated bed ...........

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