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    • agent0810undefined
      agent0810 @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux does that mean you think the tin foil under the glass bed is a good idea? Thank you!

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      • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
        jumpedwithbothfeet @agent0810
        last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

        @agent0810 have you tried printing out some bed supports you can find these on Thingiverse I have some fitted to my bed and it helps, I would also not use Foil under your glass plate, shiny things and IR probes don’t mix! I have literally just got back from screwfix with some high temp black paint for my bed plate 🙂

        This what I have fitted to my ender, if you can even get on Thingiverse at the moment seems the site has gone c@£p again 😞

        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3661405

        Regards Jim

        6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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        • agent0810undefined
          agent0810 @jumpedwithbothfeet
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          @jumpedwithbothfeet

          Hmmm I have tried and I can’t get a good first layer to print them 😞

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          • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
            jumpedwithbothfeet @agent0810
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            @agent0810 couple of questions....have you used hairspray etc on the bed? What does the height map look like maybe a screen shot? And when you probe the bed multiple times what do the readings look like?

            Regards Jim

            6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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            • agent0810undefined
              agent0810 @jumpedwithbothfeet
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              @jumpedwithbothfeet

              I have not used anything on my beds, before trying to get this IR blaster working i was having awesome adhesion and first layers.

              I have not done a heat map, ill look up how to do that.

              Here are my readings from yesterday:

              7/27/2020, 8:02:35 PM Connection established
              7/27/2020, 8:02:20 PM Connection interrupted, attempting to reconnect...
              HTTP request timed out
              7/27/2020, 8:02:10 PM Upload of config.g successful after 0s
              7/27/2020, 8:01:37 PM G30 S-1
              Stopped at height 0.195 mm
              7/27/2020, 8:01:23 PM G1 Z5
              7/27/2020, 8:01:14 PM G30 S-1
              Stopped at height 0.196 mm
              7/27/2020, 8:00:58 PM G1 Z5
              7/27/2020, 8:00:45 PM G30 S-1
              Stopped at height 0.195 mm
              7/27/2020, 8:00:25 PM G1 Z5
              7/27/2020, 7:59:46 PM G30 S-1
              Stopped at height 0.192 mm

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @agent0810
                last edited by Phaedrux

                @agent0810 said in New IR z probe issues:

                I have not done a heat map, ill look up how to do that.

                G29

                Here are my readings from yesterday:

                Those look quite good.

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                • agent0810undefined
                  agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux
                  Tried the G29 and the head moves to the front left corner (closest left corner to me) and errors out. im guessing the error is because the probe is on the left of the head so its not over the bed to be triggered.

                  7/28/2020, 3:24:43 PM Error: Z probe was not triggered during probing move

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    Yes you'll need to modify your M557 command to keep the probe within the bed area bearing in mind the probe offset. That is to say, you need to position the nozzle so that the probe is in the right place.

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                    • agent0810undefined
                      agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux

                      M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                      that is what my currently, what do you recommend changing it to?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        @agent0810 said in New IR z probe issues:

                        G31 P500 X50 Y0 Z0.005 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

                        Is that probe offset correct?

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                        • agent0810undefined
                          agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux

                          i believe so.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation#main

                            To optimize the mesh size you'll need to subtract the offset from the full axis length so that you're only asking it to probe areas of the bed the probe can physically reach. Otherwise the firmware will just skip the areas that it can't get to.

                            So if the probe is 50mm to the right of the nozzle, and the nozzle can only go to x0, then the probe can only reach x50. So that's the minimum on the X side for M557. Make sense?

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                            • agent0810undefined
                              agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux

                              the probe is on the left of the nozzle when im looking at it. so should it be -50?

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                @Phaedrux said in New IR z probe issues:

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                                There's a really good method for measuring the offset described in there.

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                                • agent0810undefined
                                  agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux said in New IR z probe issues:

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                                  Here is an easy way to measure the offset:
                                  Tape down a piece of paper onto the bed.
                                  Bring the nozzle down to the bed surface and lower it until the nozzle starts to depress into the paper, making a small impression.
                                  Mark the impression with a marker tip to make it more visible.
                                  Now jog X and Y until the probe is directly over the spot where the nozzle was.
                                  Take the amount you jogged as your X and Y offset to use in G31.

                                  i did exactly this step right here and got the 50, didnt think that since its to the left of the nozzle it would be -50.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    Cartesian-coordinate-system.png

                                    That's kind of how the cartesian coordinate system used by 3d printers works.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @agent0810
                                      last edited by

                                      @agent0810 said in New IR z probe issues:

                                      Take the amount you jogged as your X and Y offset to use in G31.

                                      I'll add a note about negative values there.

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                                      • agent0810undefined
                                        agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux
                                        sorry, just new to this and trying to take in a lot, im def a noob.

                                        so would this be right:

                                        M557 X-50:165 Y15:195 S20 ?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Not exactly. M557 defines the area of the bed you want probed, so negative values would mean outside of the bed area.

                                          M557 X10:175 Y10:215 P8 Should probably work.

                                          X175 because the probe can only reach 50mm away from the right edge of the bed which you've got defined as 225. So 225-50 = 175.

                                          P8 means try to fit 8 points in both X and Y directions.

                                          S20 you had before means space the points 20mm apart.

                                          We're all noobs at some point.

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                                          • agent0810undefined
                                            agent0810 @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux
                                            alright ill give that a shot. see what happens. thank you

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