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    • mrehorstdmdundefined
      mrehorstdmd
      last edited by

      I'm not so sure you've got a real problem with that plate. I think you just need to use more test points when you run the manual bed leveling assistant. The assistant will then average the error over the entire surface and give you the best leveling adjustment. I use 9 points on the bed surface with the assistant and it works great.

      Do you have any idea how hard it is to bend a 6 mm thick piece of aluminum? You can forget about damage in shipping, unless they drove a truck over it, which you'd see by the tire tracks on the box.

      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @A Former User
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        @bearer said in Question about significance of height map.:

        (expression of mailman when he asked "what is it" and I replied "a granite "rock". a very flat rock mind you" = worth the wait)

        🙂

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @engikeneer
          last edited by fcwilt

          @engikeneer said in Question about significance of height map.:

          @fcwilt it could well be the rails. From your CAD, it seems they are bolted straight to the extrusion? Do they bolt to T-Nuts or have you drilled them?

          The rails are bolted to the extrusion at every other hole using this type of fastener:

          Extrusion Fasteners.jpg

          I've found it hard to get the two y-extrusions perfectly parallel. On top of that, they usually aren't very flat

          The extrusions are 40x20. They are bolted to the rest of the frame using those corner plates.

          Extrusion Arrangement.jpg

          Shifting the rear end up slightly would be possible but it would be mostly trial and error.

          I was not able to think of any way to insure the two Y rails are parallel using the tools I have on hand.

          Now if I had access to that granite plate... 😉

          Thanks.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @mrehorstdmd
            last edited by

            @mrehorstdmd

            Hi,

            Thanks. I am going to run the assistant again using more points.

            And good to know the plate is likely as flat as it was when it left the vendor.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User
              last edited by A Former User

              can you rotate the plate 90, 190 180 or 270 degrees?

              (or even clamp a piece of mirror to it, non reflective side up, if the sensor in use would trigger off it?)

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt
                last edited by

                Hi,

                Well it turns out it was an issue with the left Y rail not being parallel to the right Y rail.

                I had to way to compare them directly but I was able to mount a dial indicator measuring the height of the very end of the left rail relative to the top of the rear horizontal extrusion.

                Adjusting the rail height was still trial and error (adjust, level, create height map, analyze, repeat) but at least I was able to adjust the rail in known amounts.

                It turned out that a 0.001 inch adjustment made a significant difference.

                The total adjustment I made is unknown because the idea of using the dial indicator came AFTER I had made the first adjustment where I tried to match the alignment of the tops of the left and right extrusions to the horizontal extrusion.

                My bad.

                In any case the "droop" in the left rear corner is gone. The bed is not perfect but the four corners are within 0.02 mm which is the best I have ever achieved.

                And I am going to settle for that for fear of screwing something up by striving for "perfection".

                Thanks to all for the help.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • Baenwortundefined
                  Baenwort @Phaedrux
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                  @Phaedrux
                  Where did you order your plate from?

                  I've often considered getting a metal bed plate with magnets built in to replace.the glass.bed + buildtak magnet sticker for my 310mm circle plate but I haven't found anywhere willing to make it and certify flatness.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @Baenwort
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                    @Baenwort said in Question about significance of height map.:

                    @Phaedrux
                    Where did you order your plate from?

                    This is what I purchased:

                    https://www.midweststeelsupply.com/store/castaluminumplateatp5

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Baenwort
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                      @Baenwort said in Question about significance of height map.:

                      @Phaedrux
                      Where did you order your plate from?

                      In Canada from here: https://www.alustock.ca/MIC6-Aluminum-Cast-Plate

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • Baenwortundefined
                        Baenwort
                        last edited by

                        Thanks, I've emailed to see if they will do round and even better if they will drill recesses for high temp magnets to be JB Welded in.

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