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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Yes the slider is the same as sensing m106.

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      • Garyundefined
        Gary @Phaedrux
        last edited by Gary

        @Phaedrux I've taken molex off fan header connections and attached direct to 24v. All fans/wiring okay. My mistake about speed - it's just a quiet - ish fan.

        That's maybe something if m106 and the sliders have no effect?

        send M106 P1 H-1 and heatsink fan comes on. No change to WebGUI controls
        M106 P1 S0 fan stops (WebGUI speed sliders - no effect)
        M106 P1 S1 fan on (WebGUI speed sliders - no effect)
        M106 P0 S1 no change to part cooling fan - still off

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        • Garyundefined
          Gary @Phaedrux
          last edited by Gary

          @Phaedrux Tried the following:
          fan0 Molex into fan2 header
          config.g changes
          ;Fans
          ; M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Disable FAN0: Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M106 P2 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

          ;Tools for p0
          ; M563 P0 D0 H1 F0
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F2

          It seems to work!

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            It sounds like the Fan0 mosfet got damaged when the fuse was blown.

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            • Garyundefined
              Gary @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux Yeah. Nothing physically obvious. What also confused me was the 2 Fans on the WebGUI. I didn't notice that one was Tool Fan and the other Fan 0, which are the same. I thought one was the heatsink fan, which thinking about it now wouldn't make sense as it's not speed controllable. Thanks for your help.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                You can post a close up high res well lit clear photo of the fan port area so we can see if there is any damage.

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                • Garyundefined
                  Gary @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Gary

                  @Phaedrux Hope it's clear enough.
                  ![0_1597559615949_20200816_072939.jpg](Uploading 100%)
                  Getting:
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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Can you try putting the photo on dropbox or google drive or something like that?

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                    • Garyundefined
                      Gary @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux 20200816_072939.png

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Nothing really visible, but it may still have failed.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
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                          if you have a multimeter putting "multimeter mosfet" into google will show you how to test the mosfet properly its a little involved so doesn't make sense to repeat what google can tell you

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                          • Garyundefined
                            Gary @A Former User
                            last edited by Gary

                            @bearer Thanks I will check as I have now visually blown P3. Also P1 stopped working. So all 3 now not working! Is there anywhere in the UK that I can send the board to get it fixed?

                            (I bought pre-wired connectors, but I didn't see that although the connectors were compatible at the hot end the polarity was reversed to the fan. I wouldn't have thought that switching the fan polarity would have blown anything - the fans would just spin the wrong way).

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @Gary
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                              @Gary said in Fan Problem - Blown Board?:

                              @bearer Thanks I will check as I have now visually blown P3. Also P1 stopped working. So all 3 now not working! Is there anywhere in the UK that I can send the board to get it fixed?

                              Send me a PM, I can replace the mosfets.

                              (I bought pre-wired connectors, but I didn't see that although compatible at the hot end the polarity was reversed to the fan. I wouldn't have thought that switching the fan polarity would have blown anything - the fans would just spin the wrong way).

                              Unfortunately, brushless DC fans don't work like that. A few types just don't work when connected the wrong way round, but most of them present a short-circuit.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • Garyundefined
                                Gary @dc42
                                last edited by Gary

                                @dc42 Thanks for the info about the polarity. That now makes sense! I bought some PMV20XNER MOSFETs, but the size of them is way beyond my capability.

                                I tried to PM you, but I get then message "This user has restricted their chat messages. They must follow you before you can chat with them"

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @Gary
                                  last edited by

                                  Try now.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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