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    • Touchthebitumundefined
      Touchthebitum
      last edited by

      Hello
      I have massive skews on my prints and on X and y axes on my core xy printer.
      I used belt tensioners to align everything perpendicular and at equal distance but the problem remains.
      When I make movements on x/y (manually jog) , axes move well. I had random Y movements when I moved X axe before.
      The only things that makes me think about, is that I use 2 GT2 different belt manufacturers because I didn't have length enough.
      Any idea ?
      Thanks

      Here is my config.g file :

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Tue Aug 11 2020 15:50:14 GMT+0200 (heure d’été d’Europe centrale)

      ; General preferences
      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z2:3 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E415.00 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E3600.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z120.00 E2500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800 Y800 Z600 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
      M671 X258:-10 Y0:0 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
      M572 D0 S0.025

      ; Trinamic Drive Tuning
      ; Tune tpwmthrs (V) so stealthchop runs at appropriate speeds
      ; and tune thigh (H) to avoid shifting into fullstep mode
      M569 P0 V50 H50 D3 ; X - Set tpwmthrs so StealthChop runs up to 46.9mm/sec (try V47)
      M569 P1 V50 H50 D3 ; Y - Set tpwmthrs so StealthChop runs up to 46.9mm/sec
      M569 P2 V95 H95 D3 ; Z - Set tpwmthrs so StealthChop runs up to 31.2mm/sec

      ; Stealthchop parameters
      ;M915 P0 S10 F1 R1
      ;M915 P1 S10 F1 R1
      ;M915 P2 S10 F1 R1
      ;M915 P0 H200 F1 R1 S10 T20
      ;M915 P1 H200 F1 R1 S10 T20
      ;M915 P2 F1 R1 T95

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 X295 Y290 Z600 S0 ; set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io1.in
      M574 Y1 S1 P"io2.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io2.in

      ; Z-Probe
      M950 S0 C"io7.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
      M558 P9 C"^io7.in" H5 F480 T8000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X40 Y5 Z2.25 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X50:271 Y70:264 S20 ; define mesh grid

      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T95000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H0 C"out2" T0 ; create bed heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B0 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0 S-273.15 ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S320

      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out4" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out4 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 H-1
      ;M106 P1 S255 H1 T200 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ; Custom settings
      M564 H0

      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue

      Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
      BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @Touchthebitum
        last edited by

        @Touchthebitum I'd guess you have two different pitches of belt, or pulleys with different numbers of teeth on the X and Y motors. Though different belt tension between the two belt can also cause this. Show us a picture!

        Ian

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        • Touchthebitumundefined
          Touchthebitum @droftarts
          last edited by Touchthebitum

          @droftarts
          but if I jog 10mm on every axe, it is correct, travel is 10mm...
          I have : Gates 6mm GT2 Fiber Glass Reinforced Belt and GT2 Belt ,2mm pitch, 6mm width Neopren reinforced fiberglass from the other manufacturer.
          Pulley are : GT2 Pulley 16 Teeth 5mm bore

          Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
          BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Photos of the belt paths will help. From the top looking down.

            simple_belts_corexy_annotated.jpg

            Sounds like a pulley/belt path out of alignment.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • Touchthebitumundefined
              Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux

              Annotation 2020-08-20 192544.jpg

              Ok but I can make different ...

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Well I mean your actual printer, not an idealized diagram.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                • Touchthebitumundefined
                  Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux

                  I don't understand because yesterday I printed a small piece without x/y axes problems ...

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                  BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                  • Touchthebitumundefined
                    Touchthebitum
                    last edited by

                    core xy.jpg

                    Here is the setup

                    Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                    BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      It looks like maybe your belts heading to the carriage aren't totally parallel with the rail.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • Touchthebitumundefined
                        Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux
                        Maybe.
                        Could 2 belts with 2 different elasticity grade cause this problem? It seems that one is more soft...

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                        • Touchthebitumundefined
                          Touchthebitum
                          last edited by

                          I found the problem. It was a loosen screw on one of the x/y motors.
                          Thanks for your help.

                          Sparkcube XL V 1.1 300x300x190, Radds, Raspberry, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v, Big Booster Extruder, DIY building
                          BLV Cube 665mm Direct Drive with Duet3/SBC (RPi 4) Mosquito Magnum/Bond Tech Extruder/Vanadium Nozzle, Keenovo silicone bedheat 220v

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