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    peter247 @alxndr
    last edited by peter247 20 Aug 2020, 14:43

    @alxndr
    Nope , 0mm left <> right 220mm , 0mm front , 220 back

    So does it home to the right / back and did you use my homing files ?.

    it should home right and say 220mm

    Sound to me that the motor direction and the homing macro are running in the wrong direction too.

    Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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      alxndr @peter247
      last edited by 20 Aug 2020, 17:25

      @peter247 it does home to the right back. yes i used your homing files. not sure what value it shows though as i dont remember. I would have to check tonight after work.

      if i do need to fix it, is it an easy fix? just so that i have them ahead of time.

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        peter247 @alxndr
        last edited by peter247 20 Aug 2020, 18:39

        @alxndr
        I'm lost want happening if it not showing 220 , 220 homed !!! .
        I take it you are using more or less the config.g file you posted at the start.
        **** o.k , just looked at your config.g and found the problem ****

        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
        M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop

        M574 X1 S1 , what does this mean ?

        Xnnn Position of X endstop: 1 = low end, 2 = high end.
        Snnn Endstop type: 0 = active low endstop input, 1 = active high endstop input

        S1 is correct for it works.
        Now for the bit you have wrong X1 and Y1 , which means it homes to the left / front , X1,Y1 this need to be changed to X2,Y2 home to the right / back.

        **** IMPORTANT BIT ****
        it is homing right and back because the motor directions are wrong like I said yesterday .

        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards <----
        M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards <----
        M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards

        Make P0 and P1 motors S0 not S1 , like this.

        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards <----
        M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards <----
        M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards

        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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          alxndr @peter247
          last edited by 20 Aug 2020, 19:28

          @peter247 so for the x1 and y1 under endstops, i want them to be x2 and y2 ?

          so they should be high end, active high?

          the thing is that they do home to back right physically. so im not sure?

          as for the important bit....making motors s0 would do what exactly? make them properly go forwards? ill be honest...im a little confused lol

          so right now, when i home x and y, they go back end and right side. so back right. isnt that the way they should go? im sorry....im new to all this so im just trying to understand lol

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            peter247 @alxndr
            last edited by peter247 20 Aug 2020, 19:44

            @alxndr

            so for the x1 and y1 under endstops, i want them to be x2 and y2 ?
            so they should be high end, active high?

            Yes and yes ... Low end mean home left , High mean home right , it tell you machine where the end stops our.

            making motors s0 would do what exactly? turn in the other direction.

            Before it was told that the end stop was on the left , but went to the right and hit the end stop on the right .

            in a way it would work as it was now , but you would get a mirror of it.

            so right now, when i home x and y, they go back end and right side.

            Yes , but it thinks it is going to the left and hitting a end stop on the left.
            TWO WRONG ARE MAKING A RIGHT .

            Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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              alxndr @peter247
              last edited by alxndr 20 Aug 2020, 21:21

              @peter247 so i made the changes you recommended and both x and y crashed because they went towards the left side which has no endstops. had to panic 😞

              i played around with everything and ended up reverting back. even when i use the buttons for x and y to go left by 10 or wtv...when i click the left direction buttons, it goes right. i get that something isnt right. but no idea what to do. i tried your suggestion but it doesnt seem to work at all. just crashes so i have to shut down. when i go +10 it moves left and when i go -10 it moves right.....i just dont get it...i feel so discouraged. any ideas?

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 21 Aug 2020, 04:15

                You're close. Here are a few rules that you must follow and then the one thing you might need to change to get it all to work.

                X0 Y0 MUST be in the front left corner to match the slicer and CAD coordinate system. X- to the left, X+ to the right. Y- to the front, Y+ to the back. Doing otherwise is asking for mirrored prints.

                The end stop position is physically located on your printer, so you have to have it configured correctly to match. You have the endstops at the high end of travel, because 0,0 is the front left, and the endstops are at the rear right. 235,235 (or whatever the max travel ends up being) so M574 MUST be X2 and Y2.

                Now that we know where the endstops are located and which direction of travel things should be going, we can change the homing files to move towards the endstops. Since your endstops are at the high end, the homing moves MUST be in the positive direction.

                Now that we have all those MUSTS out of the way, there is one thing left to change to make it all work. The direction of the motor rotation. Defined M569 S1 or S0.

                To test which way they should go it's simple.

                First, with the printer off, physically move the print head to the middle.

                Turn on the printer and edit config.g and set it like so:

                M569 P0 S0
                M569 P0 S0

                Now when you reboot, go to the gcode console and send these commands

                G92 X100 Y100 ; that tells it that the X and Y are basically in the center and will allow you to move them

                Now send G1 X10

                The print head should move 10mm to the right. If it doesn't, we need to change M569 P0 S0 to S1.

                Now send G1 Y10

                The print head should move 10mm to the back. If it doesn't we need to change M569 P1 S0 to S1.

                And now after making any changes you should be able to home and it should move towards the endstops, stop, and set the position to whatever the max travel is.

                The last thing to do will be to set your M208 maxima values to what they ACTUALLY are and not what creality has advertised.

                To do that, turn off the printer. move the print head to the front left corner where you want 0,0 to be. The nozzle just at the corner of the printable area.

                Now turn on the printer and send G92 X0 Y0

                Now send G1 X300 H3

                That will move the print head to the endstop and when it stops it, the current X coordinate should be what you use to set your M208 X maxima.

                Now use G1 Y300 H3 to do the same for the Y axis.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 21 Aug 2020, 04:17

                  @Phaedrux said in Duet 2 Wifi + BLtouch issues on Ender 5 pro:

                  You might find this series of guides helpful
                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+3:+Commissioning/39

                  By the way, pretty much everything I just said is found in this guide I linked to 2 days ago.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    peter247 @alxndr
                    last edited by peter247 21 Aug 2020, 07:53

                    @alxndr
                    repost your config.g file / homeall.g

                    You haven't changed the motor direction like this ?

                    M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards <----
                    M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards <----

                    or you haven't set the homing file correct ?

                    My guess is you have chosen the Ender 3 configurator , But the ender 3 are like the cr10 , it home at 0:0 left , down .

                    So to home you say go minus upto 220mm left , but the ender 5 home right so homes with a plus value.

                    ( A ) you are not using my Homing file
                    ( B ) you haven't changed the motor direction .
                    ( C ) Both

                    Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                      alxndr @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 21 Aug 2020, 13:56

                      @Phaedrux thanks for all this! ill try tonight after work when i get home. i remember maybe trying something like this but when i tried to move left it wouldnt go all the way. maybe i missed something. it would stop half way...

                      also, when you say to manually move the print head to the center, does it have to be perfectly in the center? im not sure i can do that just by eye lol

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @alxndr
                        last edited by 21 Aug 2020, 16:53

                        @alxndr said in Duet 2 Wifi + BLtouch issues on Ender 5 pro:

                        does it have to be perfectly in the center?

                        No, it's just to keep it away from the ends of the axis.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          alxndr @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 22 Aug 2020, 02:29

                          @Phaedrux so something is wrong. I did everything you said to do. and im still getting everything in the wrong direction. The one thing that is weird is that after changing x1 and y1 to x2 and y2, the movement buttons still dont work in the right direction BUT only move to the left just a little bit and then wont continue. Im not sure if this makes sense.

                          ill post my config.g with how it was before i made your changes as well as my homing files. if you could help, that would be amazing.

                          ; General preferences
                          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          M550 P"Ender 5 Pro" ; set printer name

                          ; Network
                          M552 S1 ; enable network
                          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S1 ; enable FTP
                          M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet

                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                          M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                          M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E415.00 ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z300.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E900 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                          M208 X220 Y220 Z300 S0 ; set axis maxima

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                          M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                          M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; set endstops controlled by probe

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F100 T2000 ;
                          M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; define GPIO/Servo pin index
                          M557 X35:185 Y35:185 S50 ; define mesh grid
                          G31 X-45 Y-4 Z0 ;
                          M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ;

                          ; Heaters
                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                          M143 H0 S100 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C
                          M307 H0 A161.3, C526.0, D1.2 S1 ; PID Heater - Bed
                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                          M143 H1 S230 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 230C
                          M307 H1 A499.2, C151.6, D3.8 S1 ; PID Heater - Nozzle

                          ; Fans
                          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                          ; Custom settings
                          G29 S1 ; Load mesh bed

                          ; Miscellaneous
                          M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

                          ; homeall.g
                          ; called to home all axes
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Fri Aug 07 2020 18:12:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

                          ;G28 XY
                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 X-225 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G1 H1 Y-225 F3000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          ;G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning

                          G1 X65 Y114 F4000 ; Move probe to middle of bed

                          G30

                          ; homex.g
                          ; called to home the X axis
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Fri Aug 07 2020 18:12:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 X-225 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          ;G1 H2 X-5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                          ;G1 H1 X 225 F240 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                          G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning

                          ; homey.g
                          ; called to home the Y axis
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Fri Aug 07 2020 18:12:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 Y-225 F3000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          ;G1 H2 Y-5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                          ;G1 H1 Y225 F240 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                          G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning

                          ; homez.g
                          ; called to home the Z axis
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Fri Aug 07 2020 18:12:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

                          ;G28 XY
                          G91 ; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 X-225 F3000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G1 H1 Y-225 F3000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          ;G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                          G90 ; absolute positioning

                          G1 X65 Y114 F4000 ; Move probe to middle of bed

                          G30

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                            Phaedrux Moderator @alxndr
                            last edited by 22 Aug 2020, 03:09

                            @alxndr said in Duet 2 Wifi + BLtouch issues on Ender 5 pro:

                            the movement buttons still dont work in the right direction BUT only move to the left just a little bit and then wont continue. Im not sure if this makes sense.

                            It's only going to start working right when everything is changed. Go through the steps I describe. It'll work.

                            M574 X2 Y2
                            Homing moves in positive direction
                            Then test your motor movement directions -x to the left, +x to the right, -y to the front, +y to the back. Change M569 S to get those directions.

                            Then homing and jogging should work.

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                              peter247 @Phaedrux
                              last edited by peter247 22 Aug 2020, 08:26

                              @Phaedrux

                              I'll leave it to you !!!!

                              He is still using negative homing , still got the wrong motor direction and using low end homing.
                              I think he is only changing one setting at the time and saying it not working.
                              How do you get it wrong when you give someone a full set of correct homing file and tell him step by step what to change in the config.g file.
                              I guess it is true ? you can get a horse to water , but you can't make it drink.

                              Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                                alxndr @Phaedrux
                                last edited by 22 Aug 2020, 19:14

                                @Phaedrux thanks so much for explaining and for your patience. I'll give all that a try today and report back.

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                                  alxndr @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by alxndr 22 Aug 2020, 20:17

                                  @Phaedrux

                                  so i got everything homing perfectly now! great guide, thank you!!

                                  as for my axis limits, does this make any sense to you? the advertised is 220x220x300

                                  the bed physically measures 235x235

                                  and when i run the commands you send me after manually bringing the print head to 0,0, these are the numbers i get (below).

                                  also, do i have to home the printer every time i reboot it? it keeps turning the buttons orange and sometimes says not homed when i try stuff...

                                  thanks again!
                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                  M208 X228.8 Y219.5 Z300 S0 ; set axis maxima

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @alxndr
                                    last edited by 22 Aug 2020, 22:13

                                    @alxndr said in Duet 2 Wifi + BLtouch issues on Ender 5 pro:

                                    also, do i have to home the printer every time i reboot it?

                                    Yes. When the power is off the motors can't be guaranteed to hold their position, so you need to rehome the printer.

                                    Those axis maxima look pretty good

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      alxndr @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 22 Aug 2020, 23:09

                                      @Phaedrux but the build plate is actually 235x235 though. Are my numbers still ok even though?

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by Phaedrux 22 Aug 2020, 23:21

                                        235 based on what?
                                        What you measured was what the nozzle can actually reach if you placed 0,0 at the corner of the reachable area.

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                                          alxndr @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by 23 Aug 2020, 01:20

                                          @Phaedrux if I measure with a tape, it's 235mm by 235mm. The actual glass bed I mean

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